"Two things... 1, We have been using radio for more than 5 generations but we are still here? 2, What mechanisms are there due to non thermal effects from microwave exposure that can damage a DNA strand (or any other molecule what so ever)? And why is Olle not explaining these mechanisms in any detail? I expect this to be consored by the admin... Olle was awarded a prominent price in 2004, Obscurantist of the Year, by his scientific peers."
Dear "ZaizaiDevlin",
These are two very important issues, and I hereby try to answer them to the best of my capacity.
1. To begin with, radio has not been used for 5 human generations but in most countries only for one - or at most two - full generations. Actually, the radio and TV exposures of our populations have possibly left an unwanted mark on us. For instance, Dolk et al (1997) found that there was significant decline in skin and bladder cancer incidence among adults in England as distance from a frequency modulation (FM) broadcasting tower increased. In the second part of the study, these investigators reported a similar trend for individuals who lived various distances from FM and TV towers, but the effect was less pronounced than in the first study. Furthermore, cancer incidence has also been associated with proximity to television towers (Hocking et al. 1996). We have studied the incidence of melanoma which has been increasing steadily in many countries since 1960, but the underlying mechanism causing this increase remains elusive. The incidence of melanoma has been linked to the distance to frequency modulation (FM) broadcasting towers. Using exposure--time-specific incidence extracted from exposure and incidence data from 4 different countries, compared with reported age-specific incidence of melanoma, we could show a correlation between melanoma incidence and the number of locally receivable FM transmitters (Hallberg & Johansson 2002). Of course, further studies are needed to unfold the mechanisms and factors behind these observations.
2. When it comes to the mechanisms behind EMFs and their effects on various molecules, cells, tissue systems, organs and biological systems, including bacteria, plants, birds, mice, rats, etc., there is a wealth of yet completely established explanations, including effects on ionic channels, nitric oxide pathways, hormonal gateways, transmitter release and reuptake, apoptotic factors, calcium fluxes, immune-regulatory pathways, growth- and differentiation-related molecules, phosphorylation-dephosphorylation/cAMP/protein kinase A/DARPP-32, etc., and it would be very interesting to see these put to more scientific tests. Non-thermal effects are very common in biology and some of their mechanistic explanations have even been rewarded a Nobel Prize. When I and/or "ZaizaiDevlin" can explain the corresponding molecular events for the mechanisms relating to the current discussion about microwaves and health effects, then we may also come to meet His Majesty the King in Stockholm.
With my very best regards
Yours sincerely
Olle Johansson
(Olle Johansson The Experimental Dermatology Unit Department of Neuroscience Karolinska Institute 171 77 Stockholm Sweden)
"Two things... 1, We have been using radio for more than 5 generations but we are still here? 2, What mechanisms are there due to non thermal effects from microwave exposure that can damage a DNA strand (or any other molecule what so ever)? And why is Olle not explaining these mechanisms in any detail? I expect this to be consored by the admin... Olle was awarded a prominent price in 2004, Obscurantist of the Year, by his scientific peers."
Dear "ZaizaiDevlin",
These are two very important issues, and I hereby try to answer them to the best of my capacity.
1. To begin with, radio has not been used for 5 human generations but in most countries only for one - or at most two - full generations. Actually, the radio and TV exposures of our populations have possibly left an unwanted mark on us. For instance, Dolk et al (1997) found that there was significant decline in skin and bladder cancer incidence among adults in England as distance from a frequency modulation (FM) broadcasting tower increased. In the second part of the study, these investigators reported a similar trend for individuals who lived various distances from FM and TV towers, but the effect was less pronounced than in the first study. Furthermore, cancer incidence has also been associated with proximity to television towers (Hocking et al. 1996). We have studied the incidence of melanoma which has been increasing steadily in many countries since 1960, but the underlying mechanism causing this increase remains elusive. The incidence of melanoma has been linked to the distance to frequency modulation (FM) broadcasting towers. Using exposure--time-specific incidence extracted from exposure and incidence data from 4 different countries, compared with reported age-specific incidence of melanoma, we could show a correlation between melanoma incidence and the number of locally receivable FM transmitters (Hallberg & Johansson 2002). Of course, further studies are needed to unfold the mechanisms and factors behind these observations.
2. When it comes to the mechanisms behind EMFs and their effects on various molecules, cells, tissue systems, organs and biological systems, including bacteria, plants, birds, mice, rats, etc., there is a wealth of yet completely established explanations, including effects on ionic channels, nitric oxide pathways, hormonal gateways, transmitter release and reuptake, apoptotic factors, calcium fluxes, immune-regulatory pathways, growth- and differentiation-related molecules, phosphorylation-dephosphorylation/cAMP/protein kinase A/DARPP-32, etc., and it would be very interesting to see these put to more scientific tests. Non-thermal effects are very common in biology and some of their mechanistic explanations have even been rewarded a Nobel Prize. When I and/or "ZaizaiDevlin" can explain the corresponding molecular events for the mechanisms relating to the current discussion about microwaves and health effects, then we may also come to meet His Majesty the King in Stockholm.
With my very best regards
Yours sincerely
Olle Johansson
(Olle Johansson The Experimental Dermatology Unit Department of Neuroscience Karolinska Institute 171 77 Stockholm Sweden)EHS (Electrical Hypersensitivity) by Brian SteinSSITAorgUK2018-08-28 | ...Dr Erica Mallery-Blythe, MD at the Commonwealth Club of CA, June 2015SSITAorgUK2015-10-01 | ...Wi-Fi - Safe or Harmful?SSITAorgUK2015-07-04 | Dr Erica Mallery-Blythe and Paul Lewis are guests on BBC Radio Sheffield, 14th May 2015.
http://www.ssita.org.ukIs Wi-Fi Safe? Dr Erica Mallery-Blythe talking on BBC Radio OxfordSSITAorgUK2015-06-28 | Dr Erica Mallery-Blythe and Paul Lewis are guests on BBC Radio Oxford discussing health issues associated with exposure to Wi-Fi radiation.
http://www.ssita.org.ukDr. Erica Mallery-Blythe - Electromagnetic Radiation, Health and Children 2014SSITAorgUK2014-11-18 | Is your mobile phone, Wi-fi, Smart meter, or baby monitor safe? Dr. Erica Mallery-Blythe highlights the health concerns regarding use of radiofrequency (Group 2b Carcinogen) communication devices in this concise summary. Aimed especially at protecting the health of children, but valuable to all, this presentation highlights the current cautions from independent scientists globally on the issue of unregulated microwave exposure from rapidly escalating use of such devices and cell towers, etc. Unprecedented revenue has blocked appropriate precaution to protect health, and all should watch this informative, factual, easily understandable explanation of the real hazards of electromagnetic technology on living systems, and how to protect health.
http://www.powerwatch.org.ukProf. Olle Johansson - Albert Einstein and William Shakespeare did not use the internetSSITAorgUK2013-06-19 | Prof. Olle Johansson is asked what his message would be to any headteacher who has installed Wi-Fi in school.
"People like William Shakespeare and Albert Einstein did not have this [internet technology and Wi-Fi] and they're still unsurpassed in brilliance."
http://www.ssita.org.ukBarry Trower (Clip 14 of 14) - Schools do not have the right to make that decisionSSITAorgUK2013-05-14 | SSITA - Safe Schools Information Technology Alliance http://www.ssita.org.ukBarrie Trower (Clip 13 of 14) - Slow, slippery slope to ill health (Microwave and melatonin)SSITAorgUK2013-05-14 | SSITA - Safe Schools Information Technology Alliance http://www.ssita.org.ukBarrie Trower (Clip 12 of 14) - There will be lawsuits enough to bankrupt any governmentSSITAorgUK2013-05-14 | ...Barrie Trower (Clip 11 of 14) - Impossible to pass radiation through a child without a reactionSSITAorgUK2013-05-14 | SSITA - Safe Schools Information Technology Alliance http://www.ssita.org.ukBarrie Trower (Clip 10 of 14) - You cant take these people to court proving its dangerousSSITAorgUK2013-05-14 | SSITA - Safe Schools Information Technology Alliance http://www.ssita.org.ukBarrie Trower (Clip 9 of 14) - How the mobile phone industry can buy itself another 25 yearsSSITAorgUK2013-05-13 | SSITA - Safe Schools Information Technology Alliance http://www.ssita.org.ukBarrie Trower (Clip 8 of 14) - If you take on this industry, you take on the governmentSSITAorgUK2013-05-13 | SSITA - Safe Schools Information Technology Alliance http://www.ssita.org.ukBarrie Trower (Clip 7 of 14) - The government will not let this industry failSSITAorgUK2013-05-13 | It is estimated that the profits for the mobile phone industry are in the region of: £120,000,000 per day £840,000,000 per week £43,680,000,000 per year
SSITA - Safe Schools Information Technology Alliance http://www.ssita.org.ukBarrie Trower (Clip 6 of 14) - Doctors are afraid to diagnose microwave sicknessSSITAorgUK2013-05-13 | SSITA - Safe Schools Information Technology Alliance http://www.ssita.org.ukBarrie Trower (Clip 5 of 14) - Schools are not insured against microwave damageSSITAorgUK2013-05-12 | European Parliament 27. Is greatly concerned about the fact that insurance companies are tending to exclude coverage for the risks associated with EMFs from the scope of liability insurance policies, the implication clearly being that European insurers are already enforcing their version of the precautionary principle. Source: http://www.europarl.europa.eu/sides/getDoc.do?pubRef=-//EP//TEXT+TA+P6-TA-2009-0216+0+DOC+XML+V0//EN
The UK government does not fund research into cancer clusters. Data protection also makes it difficult to collate medical information.
Concerned parents should ask to see the school insurance policy that states there is third party medical indemnity against damage caused by microwave technology.
SSITA - Safe Schools Information Technology Alliance http://www.ssita.org.ukBarrie Trower (Clip 4 of 14) - Why wont schools confirm in writing that Wi-Fi is Safe?SSITAorgUK2013-05-12 | Why not contact your local school and ask them to confirm in writing that Wi-Fi in school is 'safe'? The likelihood is that you will be told only that they are operating within current guidelines.
SSITA - Safe Schools Information Technology Alliance http://www.ssita.org.ukBarrie Trower (Clip 3 of 14) - Electro-Sensitivity in School ChildrenSSITAorgUK2013-05-12 | Electro-sensitivity (Radiation sickness) in Primary School Children:
It's estimated that around 3% of the population is sensitive to non-ionising radiation. In a typical primary school of 500 pupils, it would be expected that around 15 children would suffer from adverse effects caused by exposure to Wi-Fi radiation.
Other accumulative exposure to non-ionising radiation comes from: Mobile phones, masts, Wi-Fi enabled laptops, Wi-Fi, cordless (DECT) phones, smart meters and microwave ovens.
Less obvious radiation exposure comes from: Wii consoles and controllers, iPads and the Xbox. The Xbox continues to emit radiation even when switch off.
SSITA - Safe Schools Information Technology Alliance http://www.ssita.org.ukBarrie Trower (Clip 2 of 14) - No Safe Level of Microwave Radiation for ChildrenSSITAorgUK2013-05-12 | ICNIRP STATEMENT entitled General Approach to Protection Against Non-Ionising Radiation (page 8) 'People being protected':
'Different groups in a population may have differences in their ability to tolerate a particular NIR exposure. For example, children, the elderly, and some chronically ill people might have a lower tolerance for one or more forms of NIR exposure than the rest of the population. Under such circumstances, it may be useful or necessary to development separate guideline levels for different groups within the population, but it may be more effective to adjust the guidelines for the general population to include such groups.' Source: http://www.icnirp.de/documents/philosophy.pdf
SSITA - Safe Schools Information Technology Alliance http://www.ssita.org.ukBarrie Trower (Clip 1 of 14) - Irreparable DNA Damage from Non-Ionising RadiationSSITAorgUK2013-05-11 | DNA damage caused by microwave radiation is irreparable. It is passed on from mother to daughter, generation after generation... for ever.Smart Meters - Commons Select Committee Meeting (Clip 6 of 6)SSITAorgUK2013-05-03 | This video series shows the Commons Select Committee enquiry into the UK Smart Meter roll-out held on Tuesday 23rd April 2013. Witnesses appearing to give evidence to the Committee in the first session include Dr Elizabeth Evans and Mike Mitcham from Stop Smart Meters! (UK), alongside Dr Jill Meara, representing Public Health England, and Dr John Swanson, from the Biological Effects Policy Advisory Group for the Institute of Engineering and Technology.
The representatives from Stop Smart Meters! (UK) share their concerns about adverse health effects from wireless smart meters due to the pulsed microwave radiation that is emitted 24/7 by these meters, up to 190,000 pulses a day - acute effects (insomnia, headaches, nausea, anxiety and depression, fatigue and memory/concentration problems) and chronic effects (including increased risk of cancer, infertility, dementia, immune system dysfunction, damage to fetuses); environmental damage from wireless smart meters - RF radiation affecting bees, plants, trees, birds etc and the inherent energy-inefficiency of wireless technology: cybersecurity problems - leaving homes and communities vulnerable to hacking of their smart meters; privacy issues - concerning the masses of real-time data on energy usage collected by the utility company which gives a detailed picture of family life inside a home with a smart meter, who will have access to that data, and how that data will be used; and the specter of higher bills resulting from smart meters - as has been the experience in Canada where 80% of Smart Meter users complain of higher bills within a year of installation, often more that 50% higher.
Stop Smart Meters! (UK) http://stopsmartmeters.org.ukSmart Meters - Commons Select Committee Meeting (Clip 5 of 6)SSITAorgUK2013-05-03 | This video series shows the Commons Select Committee enquiry into the UK Smart Meter roll-out held on Tuesday 23rd April 2013. Witnesses appearing to give evidence to the Committee in the first session include Dr Elizabeth Evans and Mike Mitcham from Stop Smart Meters! (UK), alongside Dr Jill Meara, representing Public Health England, and Dr John Swanson, from the Biological Effects Policy Advisory Group for the Institute of Engineering and Technology.
The representatives from Stop Smart Meters! (UK) share their concerns about adverse health effects from wireless smart meters due to the pulsed microwave radiation that is emitted 24/7 by these meters, up to 190,000 pulses a day - acute effects (insomnia, headaches, nausea, anxiety and depression, fatigue and memory/concentration problems) and chronic effects (including increased risk of cancer, infertility, dementia, immune system dysfunction, damage to fetuses); environmental damage from wireless smart meters - RF radiation affecting bees, plants, trees, birds etc and the inherent energy-inefficiency of wireless technology: cybersecurity problems - leaving homes and communities vulnerable to hacking of their smart meters; privacy issues - concerning the masses of real-time data on energy usage collected by the utility company which gives a detailed picture of family life inside a home with a smart meter, who will have access to that data, and how that data will be used; and the specter of higher bills resulting from smart meters - as has been the experience in Canada where 80% of Smart Meter users complain of higher bills within a year of installation, often more that 50% higher.
Stop Smart Meters! (UK) http://stopsmartmeters.org.ukSmart Meters - Commons Select Committee Meeting (Clip 4 of 6)SSITAorgUK2013-05-03 | This video series shows the Commons Select Committee enquiry into the UK Smart Meter roll-out held on Tuesday 23rd April 2013. Witnesses appearing to give evidence to the Committee in the first session include Dr Elizabeth Evans and Mike Mitcham from Stop Smart Meters! (UK), alongside Dr Jill Meara, representing Public Health England, and Dr John Swanson, from the Biological Effects Policy Advisory Group for the Institute of Engineering and Technology.
The representatives from Stop Smart Meters! (UK) share their concerns about adverse health effects from wireless smart meters due to the pulsed microwave radiation that is emitted 24/7 by these meters, up to 190,000 pulses a day - acute effects (insomnia, headaches, nausea, anxiety and depression, fatigue and memory/concentration problems) and chronic effects (including increased risk of cancer, infertility, dementia, immune system dysfunction, damage to fetuses); environmental damage from wireless smart meters - RF radiation affecting bees, plants, trees, birds etc and the inherent energy-inefficiency of wireless technology: cybersecurity problems - leaving homes and communities vulnerable to hacking of their smart meters; privacy issues - concerning the masses of real-time data on energy usage collected by the utility company which gives a detailed picture of family life inside a home with a smart meter, who will have access to that data, and how that data will be used; and the specter of higher bills resulting from smart meters - as has been the experience in Canada where 80% of Smart Meter users complain of higher bills within a year of installation, often more that 50% higher.
Stop Smart Meters! (UK) http://stopsmartmeters.org.ukSmart Meters - Commons Select Committee Meeting (Clip 3 of 6)SSITAorgUK2013-05-03 | This video series shows the Commons Select Committee enquiry into the UK Smart Meter roll-out held on Tuesday 23rd April 2013. Witnesses appearing to give evidence to the Committee in the first session include Dr Elizabeth Evans and Mike Mitcham from Stop Smart Meters! (UK), alongside Dr Jill Meara, representing Public Health England, and Dr John Swanson, from the Biological Effects Policy Advisory Group for the Institute of Engineering and Technology.
The representatives from Stop Smart Meters! (UK) share their concerns about adverse health effects from wireless smart meters due to the pulsed microwave radiation that is emitted 24/7 by these meters, up to 190,000 pulses a day - acute effects (insomnia, headaches, nausea, anxiety and depression, fatigue and memory/concentration problems) and chronic effects (including increased risk of cancer, infertility, dementia, immune system dysfunction, damage to fetuses); environmental damage from wireless smart meters - RF radiation affecting bees, plants, trees, birds etc and the inherent energy-inefficiency of wireless technology: cybersecurity problems - leaving homes and communities vulnerable to hacking of their smart meters; privacy issues - concerning the masses of real-time data on energy usage collected by the utility company which gives a detailed picture of family life inside a home with a smart meter, who will have access to that data, and how that data will be used; and the specter of higher bills resulting from smart meters - as has been the experience in Canada where 80% of Smart Meter users complain of higher bills within a year of installation, often more that 50% higher.
Stop Smart Meters! (UK) http://stopsmartmeters.org.ukSmart Meters - Commons Select Committee Meeting (Clip 2 of 6)SSITAorgUK2013-05-03 | This video series shows the Commons Select Committee enquiry into the UK Smart Meter roll-out held on Tuesday 23rd April 2013. Witnesses appearing to give evidence to the Committee in the first session include Dr Elizabeth Evans and Mike Mitcham from Stop Smart Meters! (UK), alongside Dr Jill Meara, representing Public Health England, and Dr John Swanson, from the Biological Effects Policy Advisory Group for the Institute of Engineering and Technology.
The representatives from Stop Smart Meters! (UK) share their concerns about adverse health effects from wireless smart meters due to the pulsed microwave radiation that is emitted 24/7 by these meters, up to 190,000 pulses a day - acute effects (insomnia, headaches, nausea, anxiety and depression, fatigue and memory/concentration problems) and chronic effects (including increased risk of cancer, infertility, dementia, immune system dysfunction, damage to fetuses); environmental damage from wireless smart meters - RF radiation affecting bees, plants, trees, birds etc and the inherent energy-inefficiency of wireless technology: cybersecurity problems - leaving homes and communities vulnerable to hacking of their smart meters; privacy issues - concerning the masses of real-time data on energy usage collected by the utility company which gives a detailed picture of family life inside a home with a smart meter, who will have access to that data, and how that data will be used; and the specter of higher bills resulting from smart meters - as has been the experience in Canada where 80% of Smart Meter users complain of higher bills within a year of installation, often more that 50% higher.
Stop Smart Meters! (UK) http://stopsmartmeters.org.ukSmart Meters - Commons Select Committee Meeting (Clip 1 of 6)SSITAorgUK2013-05-03 | This video series shows the Commons Select Committee enquiry into the UK Smart Meter roll-out held on Tuesday 23rd April 2013. Witnesses appearing to give evidence to the Committee in the first session include Dr Elizabeth Evans and Mike Mitcham from Stop Smart Meters! (UK), alongside Dr Jill Meara, representing Public Health England, and Dr John Swanson, from the Biological Effects Policy Advisory Group for the Institute of Engineering and Technology.
The representatives from Stop Smart Meters! (UK) share their concerns about adverse health effects from wireless smart meters due to the pulsed microwave radiation that is emitted 24/7 by these meters, up to 190,000 pulses a day - acute effects (insomnia, headaches, nausea, anxiety and depression, fatigue and memory/concentration problems) and chronic effects (including increased risk of cancer, infertility, dementia, immune system dysfunction, damage to fetuses); environmental damage from wireless smart meters - RF radiation affecting bees, plants, trees, birds etc and the inherent energy-inefficiency of wireless technology: cybersecurity problems - leaving homes and communities vulnerable to hacking of their smart meters; privacy issues - concerning the masses of real-time data on energy usage collected by the utility company which gives a detailed picture of family life inside a home with a smart meter, who will have access to that data, and how that data will be used; and the specter of higher bills resulting from smart meters - as has been the experience in Canada where 80% of Smart Meter users complain of higher bills within a year of installation, often more that 50% higher.