Uploaded November 2025 | Updated September 2026, 2 weeks ago
Benji Backer - Founder & CEO of Nature is Nonpartisan, the largest right-of-center environmental organization in the country.
In this powerful and wide-ranging conversation, Cam sits down with Benji Backer to discuss politics, leadership, the environment, and finding common ground in a divided world. From death threats and conspiracy theories to public land sell-offs, affordable housing, screen time’s impact on mental health, and the future of American conservation, this is one of the most honest and thoughtful political discussions you’ll hear this year.
Whether you’re left, right, or somewhere in between, this conversation proves that love for nature and clean communities can unite us all.
Listen on:
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Follow along:
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Timestamps:
00:00:00 – Getting into Politics, Death Threats, and a Love for the Environment
00:09:06 – The Government's Approach to Leadership & Their Focus on Social Media
00:15:37 – Senate Caucuses, Conspiracy Theories, and Corruption in the Government
00:24:26 – Van Jones, the Best Advice Benji Has Gotten, and the Public Land Sell Offs
00:30:13 – Public Land Sales, Affordable Housing, and the Importance of Connection to Nature
00:44:35 – Screen Time, Depression, and Rewarding Leaders with an Environmental Plan
00:48:53 – Discussions with People Outside Your Circle
00:56:45 – Aaron Rodgers: Respect for Someone That’s Always Evolving
01:01:12 – United by Nature, Trump on Public Lands Stance, and The Big Beautiful Bill
01:10:59 – Improving the Health and Cleanliness of our Communities
01:15:10 – Mineral and Energy Extraction, Mining, and Climate Change
01:23:54 – Environmentalism and Climate Change & Finding Truth in the Movement
01:28:46 – Earning Trust While Building a Movement
01:32:55 – Making a Difference Without Pushing an Agenda
01:36:10 – Final Thoughts
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Benji Backer - Founder & CEO of Nature is Nonpartisan, the largest right-of-center environmental organization in the country.
In this powerful and wide-ranging conversation, Cam sits down with Benji Backer to discuss politics, leadership, the environment, and finding common ground in a divided world. From death threats and conspiracy theories to public land sell-offs, affordable housing, screen time’s impact on mental health, and the future of American conservation, this is one of the most honest and thoughtful political discussions you’ll hear this year.
Whether you’re left, right, or somewhere in between, this conversation proves that love for nature and clean communities can unite us all.
Listen on:
Spotify: spoti.fi/3XCm31n
Apple Podcast: apple.co/3Dm6ClE
Follow along:
Instagram: instagram.com/cameronrhanes
Twitter: twitter.com/cameronhanes
Facebook: facebook.com/camhanes
Website: cameronhanes.com
Follow Benji:
instagram.com/benjibacker
Timestamps:
00:00:00 – Getting into Politics, Death Threats, and a Love for the Environment
00:09:06 – The Government's Approach to Leadership & Their Focus on Social Media
00:15:37 – Senate Caucuses, Conspiracy Theories, and Corruption in the Government
00:24:26 – Van Jones, the Best Advice Benji Has Gotten, and the Public Land Sell Offs
00:30:13 – Public Land Sales, Affordable Housing, and the Importance of Connection to Nature
00:44:35 – Screen Time, Depression, and Rewarding Leaders with an Environmental Plan
00:48:53 – Discussions with People Outside Your Circle
00:56:45 – Aaron Rodgers: Respect for Someone That’s Always Evolving
01:01:12 – United by Nature, Trump on Public Lands Stance, and The Big Beautiful Bill
01:10:59 – Improving the Health and Cleanliness of our Communities
01:15:10 – Mineral and Energy Extraction, Mining, and Climate Change
01:23:54 – Environmentalism and Climate Change & Finding Truth in the Movement
01:28:46 – Earning Trust While Building a Movement
01:32:55 – Making a Difference Without Pushing an Agenda
01:36:10 – Final Thoughts
Thank you to our sponsors:
Sig Sauer: sigsauer.com use code CAM10 for 10% off optics
Black Rifle Coffee: blackriflecoffee.com Use code KEEPHAMMERING for 20% your first order
Hoyt: bit.ly/3Zdamyv use code CAM for 10% off
Grizzly Coolers: grizzlycoolers.com use code KEEPHAMMERING for 20% off
Montana Knife Company: montanaknifecompany.com Use code CAM for 10% off
MTN OPS Supplements: mtnops.com Use code KEEPHAMMERING for 20% off and Free Shipping
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