Uploaded August 2024 | Updated September 2026, 1 hour ago
AI is completely transforming how we build software! But how exactly? What does it mean for a software application to be AI-Native versus AI-Enabled? How many other aspects of software development and creativity are impacted by AI?
Guy Podjarny is a co-founder of Snyk, a remarkably successful Cybersecurity company. He is now back on the founder journey, diving into AI-Native Development with Tessl! Guy and Bob both have so much expertise in how software is developed and shipped to the world. There are so many interesting nuggets in this from defining AI-Native to Stateful AI, AI-assisted coding, subjectivity in software specification, personalized content, and much more!
I hope you enjoy the podcast, this was a really fun and interesting one!
Learn more about Tessl here: tessl.io
Twitter thread from Guy Podjarny introducing Tessl: https://x.com/guypod/status/1810648947829907463
Chapters
0:00 Welcome Bob and Guy!
0:35 Defining AI-Native
5:04 Lessons from the Cloud-Native wave
8:12 Statefulness in AI
16:50 Tessl, Founding Vision
22:45 Subjectivity in Software Specification
30:20 Is code readability shifting to the spec?
35:45 AI teaching us how to code
40:30 Analogy to DaVinci’s crossbow
43:50 Creation and Personalization with AI
49:50 Personalized Netflix
50:25 Tessl
AI is completely transforming how we build software! But how exactly? What does it mean for a software application to be AI-Native versus AI-Enabled? How many other aspects of software development and creativity are impacted by AI?
Guy Podjarny is a co-founder of Snyk, a remarkably successful Cybersecurity company. He is now back on the founder journey, diving into AI-Native Development with Tessl! Guy and Bob both have so much expertise in how software is developed and shipped to the world. There are so many interesting nuggets in this from defining AI-Native to Stateful AI, AI-assisted coding, subjectivity in software specification, personalized content, and much more!
I hope you enjoy the podcast, this was a really fun and interesting one!
Learn more about Tessl here: tessl.io
Twitter thread from Guy Podjarny introducing Tessl: https://x.com/guypod/status/1810648947829907463
Chapters
0:00 Welcome Bob and Guy!
0:35 Defining AI-Native
5:04 Lessons from the Cloud-Native wave
8:12 Statefulness in AI
16:50 Tessl, Founding Vision
22:45 Subjectivity in Software Specification
30:20 Is code readability shifting to the spec?
35:45 AI teaching us how to code
40:30 Analogy to DaVinci’s crossbow
43:50 Creation and Personalization with AI
49:50 Personalized Netflix
50:25 Tessl
