Uploaded September 2026 | Updated September 2026, 1 day ago
Note: this interview was recorded before the High Court disgracefully refused to hear her appeal. This matter now needs to be dealt with at a political level.
Help Sall Grover with her legal costs at gigglecrowdfund.com
Sall Grover, founder of the women-only social networking app Giggle, joins us to discuss the Tickle v Giggle legal battle, her attempt to take the case to the High Court, the role of the Australian Human Rights Commission, political responses to sex-based rights in Australia, and why she believes the issue must ultimately be resolved through both the law and public opinion. The conversation also covers developments in Queensland, how Giggle became a target of activists, why many Australians remain unaware of the debate, and how similar issues are being handled in the United States and United Kingdom.
00:00 Cold Open
00:34 Sall Grover and the Giggle v Tickle Battle
03:18 The High Court Appeal & Why the Law Needs Fixing
06:20 The Human Rights Commission and Sex Discrimination Commissioner
12:59 Political Support — and Political Failure
17:04 Queensland, State Laws & Why Australia Is Falling Behind
20:32 Why So Many Australians Don’t Know What’s Happening
24:17 How Giggle Was Targeted — and Why It Matters
29:02 How the US and UK Are Changing Course
32:54 Court of Law vs Court of Public Opinion
Dr Peter Ridd has been researching the Great Barrier Reef since 1984, has invented a range of advanced scientific instrumentation, and written over 100 scientific publications.
Since being fired by James Cook University for raising concerns about science quality assurance issues, Peter Ridd receives no payment for any of the work he does.
Also see facebook.com/ProjectforRealScienceReefRebels
Note: this interview was recorded before the High Court disgracefully refused to hear her appeal. This matter now needs to be dealt with at a political level.
Help Sall Grover with her legal costs at gigglecrowdfund.com
Sall Grover, founder of the women-only social networking app Giggle, joins us to discuss the Tickle v Giggle legal battle, her attempt to take the case to the High Court, the role of the Australian Human Rights Commission, political responses to sex-based rights in Australia, and why she believes the issue must ultimately be resolved through both the law and public opinion. The conversation also covers developments in Queensland, how Giggle became a target of activists, why many Australians remain unaware of the debate, and how similar issues are being handled in the United States and United Kingdom.
00:00 Cold Open
00:34 Sall Grover and the Giggle v Tickle Battle
03:18 The High Court Appeal & Why the Law Needs Fixing
06:20 The Human Rights Commission and Sex Discrimination Commissioner
12:59 Political Support — and Political Failure
17:04 Queensland, State Laws & Why Australia Is Falling Behind
20:32 Why So Many Australians Don’t Know What’s Happening
24:17 How Giggle Was Targeted — and Why It Matters
29:02 How the US and UK Are Changing Course
32:54 Court of Law vs Court of Public Opinion
Dr Peter Ridd has been researching the Great Barrier Reef since 1984, has invented a range of advanced scientific instrumentation, and written over 100 scientific publications.
Since being fired by James Cook University for raising concerns about science quality assurance issues, Peter Ridd receives no payment for any of the work he does.
Also see facebook.com/ProjectforRealScienceReefRebels
