Holly PivecOn March 6, 2026, Francis Chan released a public apology titled "Tremble at His Words, Be Careful with Your Own." In it, he addresses his associations with leaders in the New Apostolic Reformation (NAR), including Mike Bickle and IHOPKC. But does this apology truly address the root of the problem, or does it sidestep the real issues and dangers?
In this special audio-only episode of the podcast, Holly Pivec and Doug Geivett (joining from the Florida Everglades!) break down Chan’s letter and the accompanying statement from his network elders.
We dive deep into: The "Integrity" Gap: Was Mike Bickle a man of integrity who "fell," or was the foundation flawed from the start? "Fooled Hundreds of Times": Analyzing Chan’s admission of a lack of discernment and what that means for his role as a globally influential leader. The Elder’s Defense: Why claiming "refutation" of NAR accusations is factually incorrect and misleading to the church. The Prophetic Movement: Why a focus on character scandals ignores the deeper crisis of fallible prophecy and theological error. A Call to Action: Will Chan ever give us the biblical criteria for evaluating prophets?
Timestamps: 00:00 – Introduction & Background on Francis Chan 04:46 – Framing the Apology: "Those who no longer walk in integrity" 15:10 – The avoidance of addressing "false teaching" in the apology 21:47 – The stunning admission of being "fooled hundreds of times" 35:34 – Analyzing the Elders’ Statement 52:40 – Can a "legitimate" prophet be fallible? 1:10:00 – Unity vs. Truth: Final thoughts and closing wisdom
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EP29 | Francis Chan’s Public Apology: Does It Go Far Enough? | With Doug GeivettHolly Pivec2026-04-02 | On March 6, 2026, Francis Chan released a public apology titled "Tremble at His Words, Be Careful with Your Own." In it, he addresses his associations with leaders in the New Apostolic Reformation (NAR), including Mike Bickle and IHOPKC. But does this apology truly address the root of the problem, or does it sidestep the real issues and dangers?
In this special audio-only episode of the podcast, Holly Pivec and Doug Geivett (joining from the Florida Everglades!) break down Chan’s letter and the accompanying statement from his network elders.
We dive deep into: The "Integrity" Gap: Was Mike Bickle a man of integrity who "fell," or was the foundation flawed from the start? "Fooled Hundreds of Times": Analyzing Chan’s admission of a lack of discernment and what that means for his role as a globally influential leader. The Elder’s Defense: Why claiming "refutation" of NAR accusations is factually incorrect and misleading to the church. The Prophetic Movement: Why a focus on character scandals ignores the deeper crisis of fallible prophecy and theological error. A Call to Action: Will Chan ever give us the biblical criteria for evaluating prophets?
Timestamps: 00:00 – Introduction & Background on Francis Chan 04:46 – Framing the Apology: "Those who no longer walk in integrity" 15:10 – The avoidance of addressing "false teaching" in the apology 21:47 – The stunning admission of being "fooled hundreds of times" 35:34 – Analyzing the Elders’ Statement 52:40 – Can a "legitimate" prophet be fallible? 1:10:00 – Unity vs. Truth: Final thoughts and closing wisdom
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#FrancisChan #NAR #MikeBickle #IHOPKC #Discernment #Theology #NewApostolicReformation #HoldFast #HollyPivec #DougGeivettEP 41 | Are you Married to Someone in the NAR? Biblical AdviceHolly Pivec2026-09-19 | Can Christians in a spiritually mismatched marriage preserve their union while keeping a clear conscience before God?
In this episode, Holly explores the tension that occurs in marriages when one spouse is part of the New Apostolic Reformation and the other is not.
She unpacks what a "spiritual mismatch" is through 1 Corinthians 7, where Paul instructs believers who are married to an unbeliever, and she shows how his advice can also apply to those believers who are married to someone in NAR. She also examines conscience and authority through Acts 5:29 and the examples of Shadrach, Meshach, Abednego, and Daniel, concluding that obedience to God comes before human authority, and that marriage vows never require participating in false teaching.
In this episode, you'll learn:
* What a spiritual mismatch is and its implications in a marriage. * What to do if you are in a mismatched marriage, based on 1 Corinthians 7:12-16 and Acts 5:29. * How Acts 5:29 warns against joining others in disobedience to God. * How to handle the tough issues arising from a spiritually mismatched marriage. * The importance of keeping your conscience clean before God.
Have you or someone you love ever faced a spiritually mismatched marriage? Tell us about it in the comments.
Resources & Links: Join Holly's Substack Book Club: hollypivec.substack.com Read more about NAR tactics in Holly's co-authored book, Counterfeit Kingdom: https://a.co/d/08kKR5j9
#christianpodcasting #NAR #christianmarriage #falseteachersEP 40 | Is Your Church Leadership Actually Healthy? 3 Revealing SignsHolly Pivec2026-09-04 | Doctrinal soundness, quite simply, is not enough. A church can be biblically sound and still be led by unaccountable, unhealthy leadership.
In this episode, Holly breaks down three fundamental characteristics of healthy leadership, highlighting the importance of accountability, transparency, and character traits drawn from 1 Timothy 3:1–7 and Titus 1:5–9. These passages show us how to discern whether a church's leadership is actually healthy beyond biblical soundness.
In this episode, you'll learn:
- Why "doctrinally sound" doesn't necessarily mean "safe" - The pervasive reality of "paper elders" who do not hold the senior pastor accountable - What 1 Timothy 3 and Titus 1 actually require of elders - Why governing bylaws are essential (and how they are often neglected) - The authoritarianism test: Do your leaders truly welcome questions?
Resources & Links: Join Holly's Substack Book Club: hollypivec.substack.com Read more about NAR tactics in Holly's co-authored book, Counterfeit Kingdom: https://a.co/d/08kKR5j9
Have you ever experienced "paper elder" leadership: strong in theory, but impotent in practice? Tell us in the comments.
#christianpodcasting #NAR #healthytheology #apologetics #falseteachersThe Importance of Finding Your AlliesHolly Pivec2026-08-31 | Feeling like you're the only one who notices false teaching in the church is isolating, but it's not true.
Seeking out other discerning believers is essential for staying grounded. This can look like starting a book study focused on discernment, which also helps cultivate that same awareness in others within your church.
These connections are necessary for anyone seeking to stay faithful in discernment without feeling alone in the process.
#theology #discernment #apologeticsThe Danger of Becoming CynicalHolly Pivec2026-08-29 | In this video, Holly shares how a theology professor once cautioned students about going into polemics, the branch of theology that deals with heresy and false teaching, because of the toll it can take. It's a reminder that discernment matters, but so does guarding what fills your mind.
Have you noticed yourself becoming cynical in response to all the false teachings in the church? Share your experience below.
TIMESTAMPS:
01:24 – The warning from her theology professor 02:46 – Getting hooked on murder mystery shows 03:39 – The prosecuting attorney's advice to his students 05:29 – Filling your mind with what is true and lovely
#Discernment #FalseTeaching #NAR #ChristianPodcast #MentalHealth #Theology #WisdomElijah needed a reminder that he wasnt the only one resisting false teachings, and so do we.Holly Pivec2026-08-25 | Feeling alone in calling out false teaching is more common than you think. Elijah felt the same way right after one of his biggest victories.
Finding a healthy community can help you stay grounded and grow spiritually.
#discernment #NAR #faithEP 39 | How to Find a Biblically Sound Church (Without Chasing Perfection)Holly Pivec2026-08-21 | How do you know if a church is actually solid? In this episode, Holly breaks down what to look for: biblically sound teaching and healthy leadership, not perfection.
She walks through the warning signs of deviant doctrines like the "prosperity gospel" and NAR teachings, and shares a practical filter for reading a church's statement of faith. Does it show real reverence for Scripture? Are there red flags pointing to NAR influence?
For anyone struggling to find a biblically sound community, Holly offers practical advice. And for those already rooted in a good church, the call is to dig in and serve, not just sit back
In this episode, you’ll learn:
* What Makes a Church Biblically Sound * A Mature Believer’s Role * Denominational Flexibility & the Importance of Fellowship * Why You Should Evaluate Teachings & Statements of Faith
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#NAR #KathrynKrick #Discernment #FalseTeachers #ApologeticsWe need other believers gifts, as they need ours.Holly Pivec2026-08-18 | Discernment is one ability among many. When we forget that, we start looking down on believers who are strong in areas we're not, and we miss what they have to offer us too.
#discernment #church #christianpodcastThe Lies You Tell Yourself After You FailHolly Pivec2026-08-17 | Ever catch yourself thinking "I'm so stupid" or "I'm a horrible friend" after one bad moment?
Biblical counselor Mark Baker highlights the self-talk that affects many Christians and the harmful NAR theology that often fuels these toxic beliefs. The good news? You can respond as Jesus would, with grace and truth.
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#Truth #Love #ChristianPodcastHow to Help Someone Escape False TeachingHolly Pivec2026-08-15 | What do you actually say to someone who has been hurt by false teaching?
Most of us want to jump straight to correcting them, but that almost never works. In this conversation, Holly Pivec talks with biblical counselor Mark Baker about the right way to approach people caught up in NAR teaching or other false doctrine. Mark shares a powerful personal story about befriending two Mormon missionaries and explains why asking questions changes hearts in a way lecturing never will.
Have you ever tried to help someone see past false teaching? What worked? Share your experience below.
TIMESTAMPS:
00:00 – How to talk to those harmed by NAR 02:20 – The story of the two Mormon missionaries 04:56 – Duty is ours; results are God's 06:02 – Loving people through false teaching for the long haul Watch the full episode: youtu.be/BS-23Zt60vQ?si=8xrtvwlKrs84Sy54
#FalseDoctrine #NAR #BiblicalCounseling #Discernment #SpiritualAbuse #ChurchHurt #Theology #TruthInLove #Apologetics #MentalHealthDiscernment is necessary, but its not everything.- Holly PivecHolly Pivec2026-08-14 | Discernment is necessary, but it's not everything.
It's easy to think that being right about doctrine is the whole point. But knowing truth without loving people well misses something essential. Some of the most faithful believers you'll meet aren't the most discerning ones, they're the most loving ones, and that's a strength worth learning from too.
Discernment is critical, but if it becomes the only thing we value in ourselves and others, we lose sight of the fact that God has gifted His church in many different ways, and we need each other.
#Discernment #ChristianPodcast #Humility #Wisdom #NAR #CommunityDuty is ours; results are Gods-A 17th and 18th century popular Christian maximHolly Pivec2026-08-12 | When we try to help someone come out of false teaching, it's easy to feel discouraged if they don't change right away.
But that was never our job. Our job is to love well, to speak the truth, and to be faithful with what God has given us. What that person does with it, and how God works in their heart, isn't up to us.
If you're walking alongside someone caught in false doctrine right now, be encouraged. Faithfulness, not outcomes, is the measure of your obedience.
#BiblicalTruth #Discernment #Faithfulness #ChristianPodcast #NAR #TruthInLoveEP 38 | Beyond Kathryn Krick: The Hidden Danger of Subtle NAR TeachingsHolly Pivec2026-08-07 | Kathryn Krick, the 35-year-old lead pastor of 5F Church in Los Angeles, has gone viral for her dramatic deliverance services, theatrical style, and followers laying gifts at her feet. But while critics label her a "cult leader," many are missing a much bigger threat. In this episode, Holly reveals the critical mistake people make when evaluating flashy figures like Krick: assuming the danger is limited to sensational performers. Behind Krick’s viral clips is a core doctrine standard across the New Apostolic Reformation (NAR)—the "Fivefold Ministry." Holly breaks down how NAR teachings, apostolic authority, and coded language like "Mama" and "Papa" are being promoted by soft-spoken, seemingly balanced pastors in local churches nationwide.
In this episode, you’ll learn:
* Why Katherine Krick’s viral book-signing and 5F Church reflect standard NAR doctrine. * What the "Fivefold Ministry" doctrine actually teaches—and how Ephesians 4:11 is taken out of context. * The hidden meaning behind titles like "Mama," "Papa," and laying gifts at a leader's feet. * Why "subtle" NAR churches can be even more dangerous than high-profile, theatrical leaders.
Read more about NAR tactics in Holly’s book, Counterfeit Kingdom: https://a.co/d/08kKR5j9
#NAR #KathrynKrick #Discernment #FalseTeachers #ApologeticsHas Your Church Warned You About This?Holly Pivec2026-08-04 | The NAR movement is getting more influential each day, and the church has to be prepared to proclaim the true gospel in love.
This includes warning others about the dangers of NAR theology. How is your church doing on this topic?
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#Truth #Love #ChristianPodcastGod is all knowing, and all loving, and Hes using the suffering in our lives for better purposes...Holly Pivec2026-07-31 | A finite mind cannot understand the purpose of an infinite being.
We as humans don't always understand the reasons why an all-knowing, all-loviing, all-powerful God allows suffering and hardship in our lives. But there is hope for believers, as He promises to infinitely redeem those experiences in eternity.
Even in the worst times, there is hope in God, even if we don't understand.
#BiblicalTruth #Truth #Discernment #Love #ChristianPodcast #NARThere is a direct correlation between what we occupy our minds with and the fruit in our lives.Holly Pivec2026-07-29 | What things do you fill your mind with?
It is said that we are what we eat, but have you thought that this is the case spiritually as well? If people are filling their minds with false teachings and unbiblical assumptions about reality then that will have a negative impact on their mental health. It's time to renew our minds and fill them with the truth of God.
________________________________________________________________________ God Be With You Till We Meet Again by Chris Zabriskie is licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution 4.0 license. creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0People Want to Be ZAPPED by GodHolly Pivec2026-07-28 | It's not as easy as that.
Sanctification is a process that Christians will undergo their whole lives, not a "zap" that God does to instantly eliminate our problems.
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#Transformation #ChristianPodcast #SpiritualGrowthA big part of love is discernment. Love is based on truth.Holly Pivec2026-07-27 | Counterfeit love is dangerous and unbiblical.
The church needs to be prepared to confront the false doctrines propagated by NAR with the truth of the Word of God--not only in a theological sense, but on a personal level.
The mental well-being of believers depends on this false gospel being exposed. Express your love by loving in truth.
#BiblicalTruth #Truth #Discernment #Love #ChristianPodcast #NARThe High Cost of False Doctrine: How NAR Theology Harms Its FollowersHolly Pivec2026-07-24 | What are the consequences of wrong theology being taught in a church? We often believe that having different views on doctrine is not that big of a deal, but as we will see in this video, it brings a host of problems into believers' lives. Join the conversation between Holly Pivec and biblical counselor Mark Baker as they talk about the feeling of false shame and the damaged mental health many believers experience because of the NAR doctrines being taught in their churches.
Have you experienced harmful effects from false doctrine? Share your story below.
TIMESTAMPS: 00:00 – The church's role in equipping members in discernment. 00:34 – How to identify false doctrine. 01:24 – The harmful effects of false doctrine 03:08 – Love and discernment: counterfeit love. 04:07 – Mental health and spiritual health: what do we fill our minds with? 05:56 – The impact on mental health from false teaching. 07:43 – Negative experiences of people in NAR
#ChurchHurt #FalseDoctrine #BiblicalCounseling #Discernment #Anxiety #Depression #NAR #MentalHealth #TheologyEP 37 | Why Did It Take Plagiarism to Expose The Passion Translation?Holly Pivec2026-07-23 | In this special "On My Radar," episode, I dive into key issues surrounding the New Apostolic Reformation (NAR) and why biblical discernment is more urgent than ever.
I address a commonly asked question: Are prosperity gospel teachings connected with NAR? From there, I discuss recent revelations surrounding Brian Simmons and The Passion Translation, asking why it often takes plagiarism allegations or public scandals for eyes to open, when false teaching should be tested against Scripture first.
Drawing from Acts 17:11 and Revelation 2, I show what true Berean discernment looks like—and why Christians must test claims, prophecies, and leaders against God's Word before major harm is done.
TIMESTAMPS Prosperity Gospel and the NAR Movement Connection - 0:00 Prosperity Gospel in NAR Churches - 4:39 The Passion Translation and NAR Influence - 6:31 Historical Warnings about TPT and Current Realizations - 9:41 Encouragement for Biblical Discernment - 13:43
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Have these false doctrines affected your walk with Christ? If so, how?
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#ProsperityGospel #NewApostolicReformation #BiblicalDiscernment #FalseTeachings #ChristianApologeticsPeople in NAR are focusing their time and energy trying to seek things that are impossibleHolly Pivec2026-07-20 | One of the main characteristics of the NAR movement is its performance-based teachings.
People in NAR often become more focused on rebuking, declaring, and trusting in their own works to enjoy God's blessings--wasting time and energy in ways that often lead to anxiety and depression. Stop wasting your energy trying to be enough for God; it is better to trust in His will and power.
#Sanctification #MentalHealth #BiblicalTruth #ChristianPodcast #NARYou Might Be Addicted to This...Holly Pivec2026-07-18 | The trap of fake relief.
Dependencies are often just a socially acceptable way to run away from our own troubled minds.
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#Addiction #MentalHealth #ChristianPodcastTheres no work thats done other than Jesuss finished work. Thats according to the true gospelHolly Pivec2026-07-15 | Jesus's work was completed on the cross once and for all. There is nothing we can do to add to it.
The process of sanctification is something that, by definition, each Christian will have to go through for the entirety of their lives. This clashes with NAR doctrine, as its theology is full of worldly dependencies and a performance-based mindset.
Don't fall for these false teachings; put your trust in the only true God.
#Sanctification #MentalHealth #BiblicalTruth #ChristianPodcast #NARAre Your Churchs Teachings Distracting You From Jesus?Holly Pivec2026-07-13 | Many believers are being distracted from important spiritual truths because of NAR (New Apostolic Reformation) teachings about spiritual warfare, declaring, and rebuking.
Join me for this conversation with Mark Baker, biblical counselor and author of Re-minded, where we unpack the dangers of NAR as it relates to mental health.
Have you been distracted by NAR doctrines, or do you know of others who have been?
TIMESTAMPS: 00:00 – Trusting God when we are not in control: discernment. 01:22 – The other extreme of trusting God. 01:44 – Why do we feel anxious and depressed? 02:05 – The case of Martha: doing too much and losing focus on Jesus. 02:45 – The NAR's new Garden of Eden. 03:40 – Why being distracted means being in danger. 05:28 – Salvation in NAR churches: sidelining the true gospel. 07:12 – The incomplete gospel of NAR.
#Dependency #Addiction #FalseGospel #BiblicalCounseling #SpiritualWarfare #NAR #MentalHealth #Discernment #Anxiety #DepressionEP 36 | Exposing False Teachings Without Losing Your SoulHolly Pivec2026-07-10 | How to grow in discernment and not turn cynical? In this episode, Holly shares the subtle line between spotting doctrinal error in the church and not trusting anyone or anything. While this may sound troublesome, she shares her personal experience and growth through three things that have kept her from going down that road, drawing from the church at Ephesus in Revelation 2 and Elijah's meltdown in the cave in 1 Kings.
0:08 Why Discernment Can Tip Into Cynicism 4:38 We're All at Different Places in Our Walk 9:13 Don't Only Focus on the False 13:51 Fill Your Mind With What's True and Good 18:33 Finding Your People (and Why It Matters) 20:00 A Final Word from Galatians 6:9
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#SpiritualDiscernment #Cynicism #Theology #FalseTeachings #ChristianLife #DiscernmentThe whole idea of bringing heaven to earth... thats actually impossible. -Holly PivecHolly Pivec2026-07-01 | Trying to force Earth to look like Heaven isn't just exhausting—it’s unbiblical.
When you are told you must personally develop miraculous powers, heal every disease, and force supernatural outcomes just to be "in God’s will," you are being set up for severe burnout and failure. This theology lies by telling you that your prayer declarations can force physical reality to change. In contrast, true biblical peace comes from a completely different shift: taking responsibility for what you can control (your own character, choices, and love for others) while humbly trusting God with what you cannot control. Stop chasing an impossible burden and find true rest in what God actually asks of you.
#SpiritualDiscernment #NAR #MentalHealth #BiblicalTruth #Faith #ChristianLiving #PeaceOfMindIn NAR people are constantly seeking supernatural experiences. - Holly PivecHolly Pivec2026-06-27 | Spiritual highs can cover up emotional lows.
When "faith" becomes an endless hunt for supernatural experiences, then emotionally charged music sets and worship sessions become coping mechanisms.
Instead of finding lasting peace in objective truth, people become addicted to the next artificial spiritual rush to get through the week. True mental and spiritual health doesn't rely on a manufactured atmosphere.
Want to break free from the cycle of emotional exhaustion in modern church culture?
#SpiritualDiscernment #NAR #MentalHealth #BiblicalTruth #Faith #ChristianLivingEP 35 | Is NAR Theology Fueling Your Anxiety? A Biblical Counselor ExplainsHolly Pivec2026-06-27 | Can certain so-called "Christian" teachings contribute to anxiety, depression, and feelings of failure?
In this conversation, biblical counselor Mark Baker explains how negative narratives, perfectionism, performance-based thinking, and false teachings can deeply impact our mental health. He also shares practical tools for identifying harmful thought patterns, finding hope in the midst of depression, and learning to trust God.
0:00 Negative Narratives and Mental Health 3:10 The Danger of Self-Condemnation 5:50 Why Perfectionism Fuels Depression 8:00 Practical Steps for Anxiety and Depression 10:20 How False Teaching Creates Pressure and Fear 12:00 The Link Between Depression and Hopelessness 15:00 One Question to Ask When You're Depressed 17:20 Where Are You Struggling to Trust God? 19:10 Using Scripture to Renew Your Mind 21:00 Why Bible Verses Aren't Magic Formulas 23:00 Final Encouragement
Check out Mark Baker's book Re-Minded: amzn.to/4dXP4iP See his other resources here: hopeforlifeonline.com Let us know your thoughts in the comments below!
#SpiritualDiscernment #MentalHealth #Theology #FalseTeachings #ChristianMentalHealth #DiscernmentHow False Teaching Destroys Your Mental Health (The Spiritual Connection)Holly Pivec2026-06-24 | Is your theology silently destroying your mental health? Many people don't realize it, but false teaching doesn't just distort the Bible—it directly contributes to anxiety, depression, guilt, and an unsound mind.
In this video, we dive into the hidden connection between faulty thinking and mental distress. We explore why movements like the New Apostolic Reformation (NAR) and Word of Faith teachings trap people in a toxic cycle of performance-based religion. From the crushing weight of being told "you just don't have enough faith to be healed" to the hopelessness of putting your trust in fallible leaders, we uncover the heavy burden of spiritual deception.
If you have ever felt trapped by religious shame, wondered why your faith is causing you intense anxiety, or struggled to find true clarity after leaving a mystical or legalistic church, this discussion is a crucial first step toward healing.
Have you ever experienced a church environment that negatively impacted your mental health? Let’s share our stories below.
TIMESTAMPS 0:00 - How False Teaching Attacks Your Mental Health 1:45 - Defining a "Clear and Fully Functioning Mind" 3:10 - The Real Consequences of Faulty Thinking 4:55 - Does the NAR Movement Create or Attract Anxiety? 6:40 - Why Performance-Based Christianity Leads to Depression 8:15 - The Toxic Myth of "Not Enough Faith" for Healing 9:50 - Breaking Free from Religious Guilt and Shame
#SpiritualAbuse #MentalHealth #Discernment #Apologetics #NewApostolicReformation #ReligiousTrauma #BiblicalCounseling #AnxietyAndDepressionWhy You Always Feel Like Youre Not EnoughHolly Pivec2026-06-23 | The lie that you aren't pleasing God.
NAR leaders frequently exploit our sincere desire to please God by turning the Christian life into a high-stakes performance game.
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#spiritualabuse #prophecy #discernmentDepression is the ugly feeling we get when we see something in life as hopeless. -Mark BakerHolly Pivec2026-06-22 | "If we put too much hope in a person and that person fails, and they will, we will become hopeless, depressed. But that's what actually NAR encourages."
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#hope #mentalhealth #discernmentPeople don’t normally run around calling one another apostles unless they have an affinity for NARHolly Pivec2026-06-17 | When you hear someone using those titles, it’s usually a signal that they’ve adopted a very specific worldview.
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#NAR #ChurchLeadership #DiscernmentDoes Satan Give Psychics Real Power? (A Magician’s Perspective)Holly Pivec2026-06-16 | Can demons actually implant thoughts in your head? Do false prophets and psychics possess real supernatural knowledge, or are they just masters of psychological trickery?
In this video, we dive deep into the fascinating intersection of spiritual warfare, psychology, and prophecy. We break down quotes from Christian authors on occultism, deconstruct the mechanics of "cold reading" (and how it's used to mimic divine revelation), and reveal why our minds naturally bend extraordinary experiences out of shape over time.
If you’ve ever wondered about the power of demons, the claims of the New Apostolic Reformation (NAR), or why many alleged supernatural powers fail in a controlled setting, this discussion is for you.
Have you ever received a "prophetic word from God" that did not seem genuine, or witnessed a "miracle" that you questioned?
TIMESTAMPS 0:00 - Do Psychics Have Real Power? 1:15 - Demonic Knowledge vs. Con Artists 2:45 - Can Satan Implant Thoughts in Your Mind? 4:10 - The Mechanics of "Cold Reading" Explained 5:50 - How Our Memories Bend Stories Out of Shape 7:15 - Flesh vs. Spirit: The True Nature of Temptation 8:45 - The $25,000 Astral Projection Challenge 10:30 - Did the Demon-Possessed Girl in Acts Read Minds?
#SpiritualWarfare #Apologetics #Prophecy #Discernment #Theology #ColdReading #ExposingDeception #ChristianityWhen were living outside of truth or against truth, theres consequences. -Mark BakerHolly Pivec2026-06-16 | When you base your life on a lie, your mental health will pay the price. Share with that friend who needs to hear this.
#truth #mentalhealth #discernmentI cant argue your experience, but I can argue your interpretation of your experience.Holly Pivec2026-06-12 | Human memory is incredibly selective, and we naturally reshape past events to fit the stories we want to believe.
You cannot successfully challenge what someone claims they felt or witnessed in a room decades ago, but you can absolutely challenge the logic they use to explain it.
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#truth #discernment #logicalthinking
______________________________________________________________________________________ Amazing Grace 2011 - Classical Whimsical by Kevin MacLeod is licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution 4.0 license. creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0EP 34 | How Spiritual Discernment Directly Impacts Your Mental HealthHolly Pivec2026-06-11 | Is your mental health suffering because of bad theology? Discover how growing in spiritual discernment can free you from the anxiety, guilt, and emotional damage caused by false teachings.
Many modern Christians are caught in a cycle of subtle shaming, false hope, and spiritual burnout. In this video, we break down why true biblical discernment is actually your greatest mental defense mechanism and a true faith builder.
Learn how to spot "wolves in sheep's clothing," develop a healthy theology of suffering, and guard your mind against counterfeit spirituality.
00:00 - What is biblical discernment? 01:05 - The 3 faculties of the mind 02:13 - The "gymnasium" of the mind 03:16 - Exposing mysticism and false teachings 04:32 - How bad theology hurts mental health 05:18 - The danger of fake revivals 06:35 - True love warns people 08:21 - Social media scrolling vs. mental peace 09:57 - Why NAR theology causes anxiety 12:22 - Spiritual abuse and "shame-bombing" 14:31 - Judging leaders by their fruit 15:38 - Developing a theology of suffering 17:52 - How God uses hardship to train us 20:16 - Rejecting the "quick-fix" gospel 21:55 - Overcoming negative narratives
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Check out Mark Baker's book Re-Minded: amzn.to/4dXP4iP Have you ever experienced spiritual "shame-bombing" or struggled with a "quick-fix" theology? Let us know your thoughts in the comments below!
#SpiritualDiscernment #MentalHealth #BiblicalTheology #FalseTeachings #ChristianMentalHealth #Discernment #Hebrews514Exposing the Astral Body LieHolly Pivec2026-06-11 | "My astral body can't read!" 🤣
Those who claim to travel out of their bodies always have a convenient excuse ready the moment their supernatural claims are put to a controlled test.
If a power cannot withstand a simple reading test behind a blackboard, it is a theatrical trick rather than a spiritual reality.
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#astralprojection #discernment #apologeticsIf we have true relationship, we should be able to have difficult discussionsHolly Pivec2026-06-03 | When we shy away from difficult discussions about doctrine or practice, we aren't protecting the church; we’re actually leaving it vulnerable.
Love doesn't mean nodding along to error; it means caring enough about someone to have the hard conversation that brings them back to a solid foundation.
If your "community" can't survive a question, it might be time to ask what that community is actually built on.
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#Discernment #ChurchLife #HealthyRelationshipsPeople don’t normally run around calling one another apostles unless...Holly Pivec2026-06-01 | When you hear someone referring to church leaders as "apostles" and "prophets," it’s usually a signal that they’ve adopted a very specific worldview.
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#NAR #ChurchLeadership #DiscernmentEP 33 The Hard Work of Heart Work: Why NAR Shortcuts Fuel AnxietyHolly Pivec2026-05-29 | Is the "quick fix" culture of modern church movements actually hurting your mental health? In this clip, we break down why true biblical peace isn’t a supernatural "zap," but a daily process of heart work—and how movements like the New Apostolic Reformation (NAR) might be driving people into anxiety and dependency.
If you’ve ever felt exhausted trying to manufacture supernatural experiences or control things outside your hands, this video is for you. We dive deep into the difference between coping mechanisms and true sanctification.
Key Moments in This Video 00:00 Intro: deception, shortcuts, and false teaching 01:10 The “hard work of heart work” vs instant spiritual fixes 04:22 False hope, anxiety, depression, and coping mechanisms 09:25 Dependency on supernatural experiences and emotional highs 12:06 NAR promises, impossible expectations, and control 17:54 Spiritual warfare distractions and losing focus on the gospel 21:27 Dominion theology and “another gospel”
True spiritual growth takes time. In this discussion, Mark Baker unpacks Chapter 4 ("The Hard Work of Heart Work") and Chapter 8 of his book Re-Minded, exposing how the obsession with signs, wonders, and immediate deliverance can create a toxic loop of emotional highs and crashes. By shifting our focus from what we can't control to what we can, we find the sound mind that God actually promised us.
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#SpiritualDiscernment #MentalHealth #NAR #BiblicalTruth #Sanctification #ChristianPodcast #FaithAndMentalHealthBy 2001 many churches started embracing apostles and prophets.Holly Pivec2026-05-27 | In 2001, C. Peter Wagner declared the beginning of the "Second Apostolic Age." It is a common misconception that the term New Apostolic Reformation (NAR) was a label forced upon the movement by its critics.
In reality, the name was coined by Wagner himself—a leading apostle within the movement—to describe the radical shift he was seeing in church governance. Despite modern attempts to claim otherwise, the NAR was named by its own leaders, not by outsiders.
#NAR #ChurchHistory #TheologyIf were going to say thus saith the Lord, we better make sure that the Lord has said that thing.Holly Pivec2026-05-22 | It's much safer to admit something is just our opinion than to put words in the mouth of the Almighty.
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#Prophecy #Discernment #BibleStudy #TruthWhy Our Church Banned Bethel Music: A Pastor’s PerspectiveHolly Pivec2026-05-21 | "Take heed that no man deceive you." In this final segment, we discuss the practical steps a pastor must take to protect their congregation from the encroachment of the New Apostolic Reformation (NAR). From removing Bethel music to proactively educating the flock on "experience-based" theology, this is a blueprint for biblical discernment in a digital age.
We explore why the NAR’s inward-focused "gospel of self" is so enticing—and why it’s ultimately a distraction from the Great Commission. If you are a leader or a concerned believer, this video offers a sobering look at the stakes of modern ministry and the high calling of a shepherd to guard the gate.
Key Topics in this Video:
The Bethel Music Debate: Why it’s more than just a song. The Sin of Simony: When we value the "gift" more than the Giver. Matthew 24: Jesus’ specific warnings about end-time deception. Proactive Shepherding: Helping your church navigate the "YouTube Prophet" era. The Better Vision: Shifting from self-focused experiences to spreading the gospel throughout the world. Watch the full series here: youtu.be/dEBeMjcQkZw?si=x_0ybaom8YcPsIng
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#Discernment #BethelMusic #NAR #ChurchLeadership #BiblicalTruth #Missions #Apologetics #WolfInSheepsClothingYou dont have to be a cessationist to be concerned about the NAR teachings. -Aaron MapesHolly Pivec2026-05-19 | The reality is that you can believe in the continuation of the miraculous gifts and still recognize that this modern movement has moved far beyond the boundaries of Scripture.
Testing a prophecy or questioning a self-proclaimed apostle isn't "quenching the Spirit"—it’s actually a biblical imperative to protect the church from being misled.
#NAR #Discernment #Theology #Church #ChristianityEP32 | How False Teachings Damage Your Mental Health: A Biblical PerspectiveHolly Pivec2026-05-14 | Is your spiritual life causing more anxiety than peace?
In this episode, I'm with biblical counselor and author Mark Baker to expose the overlooked link between false teachings—specifically within the New Apostolic Reformation (NAR)—and mental health struggles like depression and chronic guilt.
If you’ve ever felt like you "weren't performing enough" for God, or felt trapped by the pressure to hear a "word from God" for every decision, this conversation is for you. We dive deep into why subjective, feelings-based Christianity often leads to a "breaking point" and how you can reclaim a sound mind through the objective truth of Scripture.
In this episode, we discuss: Biblical Counseling vs. Secular Psychology: Explaining different frameworks The NAR Mental Health Fallout: Why doctrines like "Heaven on Earth" and "Modern Apostles" often result in hopelessness. The Rise of "Christian" Mysticism: The subjective mystical practices, like "grave soaking" and "trips to heaven" (via guided visualizations), that are infiltrating the church Reclaiming a Sound Mind: The vital connection between self-discipline and mental clarity (2 Timothy 1:7). The "Crack" in the System: How catching one lie or false prophecy can be the first step toward spiritual freedom.
Timestamps: 00:00 – Intro: Reconnecting with Mark Baker. 01:02 – What is biblical counseling and why is it unique? 04:02 – The secularization of pastoral care in modern seminaries. 08:47 – How false teaching creates an "unsound mind." 13:26 – Does NAR attract or create mental health issues? 16:45 – The burden of "performance-based" Christianity. 23:22 – How one "crack" via a false prophecy can lead to freedom. 28:10 – The danger of "subjectivity" and the "Touch not the anointed" trap. 31:25 – Understanding the role of self-discipline in a sound mind. 34:58 – The hard work of "heart work": Avoiding spiritual shortcuts.
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#HollyPivec #MarkBaker #NAR #BiblicalCounseling #MentalHealth #Discernment #SpiritualAbuse #SoundMind #ChristianPodcastWill the Assemblies of God Warn About Bethel Redding?Holly Pivec2026-05-14 | Many Assemblies of God churches have been taken over by the New Apostolic Reformation movement—specifically, by Bethel Church in Redding, California (a former AG church). While the AG has issued position papers warning about NAR doctrines, they have not issued public warnings about Bethel Church.
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#assembliesofGod #Bethel #NARNAR leaders hide authoritative offices by calling them functions instead.Holly Pivec2026-05-13 | Doug and I spoke with a very influential apostle in the NAR who admitted that they are intentionally shifting their language. Because the term "office" is now regarded with suspicion, they are switching to the word "function" to avoid detection—while maintaining the exact same level of authoritative power.
We need to be alert, especially in Pentecostal churches, where NAR leaders are using this tactic to make inroads. Don’t be fooled by the word change; the intent remains the same.
#NAR #Discernment #ChurchLeadershipWhy the Assemblies of God and Bethel Are at OddsHolly Pivec2026-05-12 | Is your church being influenced by a new kind of theology? In this video, we dive deep into the divide between the Assemblies of God and the New Apostolic Reformation (NAR). While many see them as similar, the reality is that they hold fundamentally different views on the end times, the sovereignty of God, and the role of modern-day "apostles."
We examine the controversial "Victorious Eschatology" coming out of NAR churches, including Bethel. We also explain how the idea that "God has dreams that may not come true" is a dangerous departure from historical Christian orthodoxy. If you’ve ever wondered why some movements are so focused on taking "dominion" over the world while others look to the return of Christ, this breakdown is for you.
In this video, we cover:
The historical roots of NAR via the Latter Rain Movement. Why NAR focuses on establishing "offices" of Apostles and Prophets. The conflict between non-NAR views of the end time and the Seven Mountain Mandate. A critique of Bill Johnson’s views on God’s sovereignty.
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#NAR #Bethel #AssembliesofGod #ChristianTheology #EndTimes #Apologetics #BillJohnsonThe Bible has designated what it means to have an office of prophet...Holly Pivec2026-05-05 | "I think that right there is a great argument for not elevating offices to try to force to have this office of prophet if the requirements and the stakes are so high."
#theology #faith #prophetsEP31 | Prophecy or Prop: How Magicians Replicate Modern MiraclesHolly Pivec2026-04-30 | Is it a miracle from God, a manifestation of the demonic, or just a clever trick?
In this deep-dive interview, professional magician and mentalist Terry Holley pulls back the curtain on the "signs and wonders" appearing in modern movements like the New Apostolic Reformation (NAR). From gold dust and "glory clouds" at Bethel to the secrets of "words of knowledge," Terry explains how mentalism and cold reading can perfectly replicate what many claim to be supernatural.
We also tackle the tough theological questions: Did Pharaoh’s magicians actually perform miracles? Can Satan control the weather? And why do so many Christians give the enemy more credit than the Bible does?
If you’ve ever wondered if what you’re seeing on stage is real or just "extrasensory deception," this episode is for you.
IN THIS EPISODE: Mentalism vs. Prophecy: How "Question & Answer" routines mimic prophetic words.
The "Glory Cloud" Demystified: Comparing modern church manifestations to Las Vegas illusions.
Theology of the Miraculous: Why creating life (snakes and blood) is a boundary only God crosses.
Occam’s Razor & The Supernatural: Understanding the 4 natural forces before jumping to "miracle" conclusions.
Demons & Objects: The logic (and hilarity) of "demon-possessed" chocolate chip cookies.
CHAPTERS: 0:00 - Introduction: Can magic explain so-called "miracles"? 03:15 - The Q&A Routine: How mentalists "read minds." 08:45 - Gold Dust & Snow: David Copperfield’s secrets. 14:20 - Pharaoh’s Magicians: Miracle or sleight of hand? 22:10 - Signs and Wonders: A Greek word study. 30:35 - Can Satan control the weather? (Lessons from Job) 38:50 - The "Supernormal" vs. The "Supernatural." 45:15 - Debunking "demonized" objects and screaming wood. 52:40 - The $25,000 Challenge for a real miracle. 58:20 - Final thoughts: Staying within biblical boundaries.
RESOURCES MENTIONED: Book: Astrology and Psychic Phenomena by Terry Holley.
James Randi’s Alpha Project: How two magicians fooled the scientific community.
CONTACT TERRY: terry_holley@hotmail.com (For church seminars/performances and questions).
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1. David Hoy's "Hurling the Headlines" is not a book, but it is a chapter found in his booklet, "The Bold and Subtle Miracles of Dr. Faust."
2. I accidentally stated that I sent predictions to David Hoy. I should have stated that I sent them to Gary North. Hoy passed in 1981. My correspondence with North was in the 1990s.Stop Blaming Your Lack of FaithHolly Pivec2026-04-29 | Stop blaming your "lack of faith."
You can trust a God who is in control even when your circumstances do not change.