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Rollo Tomassi & Michael Sartain | Episode 282 | Part 2 | The Danza Project
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In this wide-ranging conversation Alex walks us through the digital playbook that changed politics — from booking the president on top podcasts (Theo Von, Adin Ross, Joe Rogan) and handling celebrity outreach, to opposition research clips that shaped ad buys and the campaign narrative. He shares personal memories of Charlie Kirk, responds to conspiracy theories, explains the campaign’s approach to hip-hop outreach (Kodak, 50 Cent, Sheff G, Sleepy Hallow), and offers blunt takes on culture wars, “deplatforming,” Elon Musk’s role with X, and the future of the GOP.
Content note: This episode contains politically charged subjects, personal anecdotes, and discussion of sensitive events — listener discretion advised.
**Timestamps**
0:00 – Intro
1:00 – Who is Alex? & His Role with Trump
3:08 – How Alex Got Into Politics | Trump Retweet Origin Story
6:14 – X Strategies Origin | What the Company Does & Cultural Influence
10:02 – Kamala’s Gender-Surgery Quote Discovery | Opposition Research
18:06 – The Podcast Circuit | Dana White | How Alex Got Trump on Theo Von & Adin Ross
21:49 – Adin Ross Stream | Viral Clip & Young Thug Comment
23:02 – Trump on Theo Von | Personality Shift Through Podcasts
26:34 – Could Alex Have Helped Kamala Win? | “They Arrested the President Four Times”
32:23 – Kodak Black | Using Lyrics as Evidence | Campaign Lawyers’ Role
37:02 – Mac Miller Pro-Trump? | Three-Way Calls with Major Rappers & Trump
38:55 – Sheff G & Sleepy Hallow | T.I.’s Jeweler | Trump Pardons & Hip-Hop Culture | Nicki Minaj
46:13 – Alex’s Friendship with Charlie Kirk & Explains His Importance
58:03 – Reaction to Footage & Conspiracies Around Charlie’s Murder | Candace Owens
1:00:21 – Zohran Mamdani | American Jews Voting | NYC Politics & Election Process
1:12:02 – Trump’s Children & Hunter Biden
1:13:12 – The Deep State | Bureaucrats, Finance, Soros & Reid Hoffman
1:15:18 – Diagnosing America | Trump Derangement Syndrome & the Woke Virus
1:17:44 – Return to God & Birth Rate Concerns | Alex’s Book & Staying Behind the Scenes
1:23:57 – The Jimmy Kimmel Suspension
1:28:00 – Deplatforming & Demonetization | The Miami Library Project | Trump Going Viral
1:30:55 – Elon Musk & the X Acquisition | Tesla & Green Cars
1:34:08 – Fainting on Stage Story | Vulnerability & Trump Checking In
1:38:01 – Alex’s Favorite Rappers Right Now
1:40:00 – Will Alex Run for Office? | Conor McGregor White House Fight | UFC Fighters
1:46:11 – Kanye West & the Sunday Service Story
Kocky Ka says it himself:
"This is me vs. me."
In this episode, we unpack the soul behind “Dark Knights,” his journey from the trenches to the studio, and how co-signs from Meek Mill, Fridayy, Trae Tha Truth, and Benny The Butcher are helping him take things global. He also opens up about fame, faith, family, and the moment he took over his hometown with Meek by his side.
This isn’t just a come-up story. It’s a Brooklyn original.
Featuring:
– Reflections on his father’s passing
– Studio stories & viral records
– Co-signs from Meek, Fridayy, Trae, French, Benny & more
– His top 5 influences (Biggie, 50 Cent, Drake, Meek, Tory)
– The creative “cheat code” he’s using to level up fast
Watch the full interview now.
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0:00 - Intro
0:34 - Danza speaks on discovering Kocky Ka & his music
2:42 - Kocky Ka on getting a free verse from Meek Mill & his influence on him | Fridayy
5:32 - Remixing tracks | Khaled
7:05 - Kocky Ka’s upbringing, older brother & family
11:10 - How the name Kocky Ka came about
12:13 - Danza asks Kocky Ka how he got into music | Where the pain & soul came from
18:17 - Kocky Ka’s process in the studio
20:53 - When did Kocky Ka realized he was that dude | Writing Process & ideas
23:35 - Kocky’s inner circle reaction to Dark Knights | Locking in after losing it
25:40 - Dealing with the loss of his Father at 21 & becoming a man
29:31 - How Kocky Ka’s team is built around him | Meek Mill & Lil baby
31:42 - Having a unique sound & getting noticed | Trae The Truth
35:23 - Did Kocky Ka think it would turn out like this?
39:15 - Artists reaching out | Dream scenario | Shutting the block down in Brooklyn with Meek Mill
42:49 - The artists that reached out to Kocky Ka before Fridayy | The team discussions
45:05 - Kocky Ka’s current focus for dropping music | Danza gives Kocky Ka his flowers
49:07 - Kato asks if Kocky Ka has ever had imposter syndrome
50:23 - Benny The Butcher | Kocky Ka’s top 5 that influenced him the most
54:38 - What does the next year look like for Kocky Ka? | Moving out of your hometown
1:00:02 - What is lined up for Kocky Ka? | Antonio Brown
1:03:16 - Kocky Ka’s dream collab
What you’ll see:
• Zeus/Natalie Nunn conversation & what Orlando says they blocked
• His claim about “Bad Boys” and HIV (his words, unverified)
• How viral outrage is manufactured—and why he won’t play along
• Men’s mental health, pride, vulnerability, and online pile-ons
• Why “look at me” culture is breaking artists & audiences
• Organic BTS vibes: the barbershop cut, smoothie run, and crew talk
• The Danza Project’s stance on platforming vs. provocation
Disclaimer: All statements in this video are Orlando Brown’s opinions and allegations. We do not verify or endorse medical or personal claims.
In Part 7, Papoose opens up about his relationship with Claressa Shields (the GWOAT)—why the support is real, how they ignore the rumor mill, and what he’s learned watching her work in camp. We touch the fun stuff (the “hatless” VMA clip), the ringside moments where he’s yelling to protect a lead, and the reality of being present without chasing spotlight.
The convo pivots to the $15–20M Laila Ali callout: Pat explains how their side lined up financing (“we got the 15 in escrow”), respects Laila, and pushes back on online narratives about who’s ducking whom.
Then it’s a mini masterclass on the music business. As Head of Hip-Hop at TuneCore, Pat breaks down why most artists should start independent, how to actually release correctly (lead times for DSPs, why YouTube Shorts just uploading a video, staying current on TikTok tools/hashtags), and why seeing real-time dashboard metrics matters. He also runs through wins with Win Records, Rock The Bells/SiriusXM, and brand deals—reminding new artists that consistency + setup over luck.
In Part 6, Papoose addresses the viral chatter head-on, shutting down claims that he treats one child differently. He explains why the internet can be weaponized with fake stories, points to years of receipts with his family, and talks integrity—including a quick story on delivering a feature exactly like he said he would.
From there, we zoom out and talk boxing. Papoose gives a lively breakdown of Canelo vs. Crawford (why he thinks a real fight breaks out early), the stakes and psychology of Tank vs. Shakur, and why Devin Haney still deserves respect despite the Ryan fight controversy. We revisit Lamont Roach (and the power of conviction before big fights), touch on Benavídez, and debate how matchmaking, weight, and promotion shape fan narratives.
We close with Papoose’s update on music and life—staying focused, standing on principles, and keeping the long game in view.
In this 90+ minute sit-down on The Danza Project, Roach breaks down the Tank Davis draw night, the rematch clause drama, Jake Paul’s Netflix spectacle, and why Pitbull is the perfect opponent next. We also get into Shakur Stevenson, Teófimo López, Subriel Matías, Gary Antoine Russell, Floyd Mayweather exhibitions, streaming with IShowSpeed, and the business of boxing from Dana White to Turki Alalshikh.
🔥 Drop your scorecards in the comments — is Tank ducking, or still a legend? And who should Roach face next?
⏱️ Timestamps
0:00 - Intro
1:04 - Danza introduces Lamont Roach
2:42 - Life changing victories & it’s effects | The frustrations of a flawed judging system
9:23 - Lamont speaks to the haters about Tank Davis & Jake Paul controversies
21:54 - The mix up with the fight money
24:32 - Lamont’s thoughts on Crawford’s performance vs Canello
27:10 - The talks & fight progression coming up for Lamont Roach | Pitbull at 140?
29:16 - Potential fight with Richardson Hitchins | Lamont’s next fight
31:39 - Giving Shakur Stevenson a shot | Everyone wants to fight Lamont Roach | Floyd Mayweather
36:42 - If it all ended today, would Tank be remembered as a duck or a legend?
38:59 - Lamont’s reaction to being called out by Gary Russell Jr
44:05 - Lamont’s Father’s words after his most recent fight with Tank
46:18 - IShowSpeed bringing new eyes & potential Boxing match? | Streaming & Pro Box TV Gym
50:33 - Mike Epps on Instagram & dealing with haters in the comments
55:35 - Did this recent loss boost Lamont’s confidence? | Charlie Kirk
58:26 - Boxing is in a good spot right now | Jake Paul helping the sport vs bringing the circus
1:02:01 - Claressa Shields is the best female boxer ever | Mike Tyson | Glove biting
1:05:34 - Canello sticking up for boxing | Dana White & Turki Alalshikh’s influence
1:10:50 - Lamont’s reaction to Adrian Broner & his live interview on The Danza Project | Mental health
1:20:15 - Lamont on sharing moments with his cousin before and after the Tank fight, whom he lost.
1:22:07 - Isaac Cruz & Lamont’s ideal route that he wants to take
1:23:04 - What fight needs to happen to brand Lamont Roach the best Boxer in the world
We also discuss a stat mentioned in the conversation — that men die by suicide roughly “every 11 minutes” — and why Pap says nothing is worth harming yourself over. His message to fathers navigating separation: one day at a time, have the talk with your kids when it’s age-right, and turn it up for them when it gets hard.
Chime in: What’s your check-in routine for the men you love?
Note: Experiences and views are the guests’/hosts’, shared for conversation only.
If you’re struggling: you’re not alone. In the U.S., call or text 988 for the Suicide & Crisis Lifeline, or contact your local emergency number anywhere.
Pap also tells the story of meeting Nas (via Jungle), hearing an early offer while Nas said he was headed to Def Jam with JAY-Z, and why Pap ultimately passed on that early deal and later signed $1.5M at Jive—a move he now calls a mistake. Then we get the moment everything shifted: Busta Rhymes’ “Touch It (Remix)” with DMX, Missy & Mary J., Pap writing his verse half-asleep, and the first time an arena screamed when he walked out.
He breaks down records that mattered—“Charades” and the Joe feature with the famous “you never know what you have…” verse—plus his claim that NY radio didn’t rotate it due to a Mr. C vs. Kedar issue (Pap’s account). We close on the mindset: family, loyalty, unity—and the mental fortitude that helped Pap navigate loss and industry politics.
He also addresses his past comments about Damon Wayans, offers an apology, and explains why that childhood moment was traumatizing—from his point of view. We hit Will Smith’s return to rap (“bring real bars”), why Orlando thinks Kanye isn’t ‘crazy’—just relentlessly creative, and his take on Jay-Z’s legal response to Jaguar Wright. Plus: men’s mental health, fame pressure, and redemption.
Tap in, drop your thoughts in the comments, and tell us which moment hit you most.
Timestamps below cover: upbringing in Bed-Stuy/Brownsville, Alphabetical Slaughter origins, Hip-Hop Museum board work, the state of hip-hop, Kay Slay stories, advice to fathers down bad, and more.
Timestamps
0:00 - Intro
2:12 - Danza buying Bootleg Papoose albums & comparing him to Big L
3:55 - Papoose on the VMA’s & his relationship with Busta Rhymes
6:10 - Busta’s career & what he means to HipHop | Top 5 conversations
12:51 - Papoose’s upbringing, Grandma, Mom & how he got the name Papoose
17:03 - Where the artistry came from | Alphabetical Slaughter
23:42 - Papoose being a board member of the HipHop Museum in NY
25:58 - How Papoose feels about The Current State of HipHop
31:41 - Papoose knew he would make it in the Music Industry | Hustling vs Street Mentality
37:50 - Danza states that we are in the Worst Era of HipHop | Papoose hates Series vs Movies
43:07 - The struggles of distributing music back in the day | Kay Slay | Rikers & almost ruining his career
54:45 - Kay Slay’s impact on Papoose & The HipHop Culture | Covid & Kay Slay’s passing
1:02:25 - The pros & cons of being signed
1:06:10 - Meeting Nas for his contract & Slay’s reaction
1:09:38 - Papoose’s biggest moments in HipHop
1:14:43 - Danza asks about Papoose’s upbringing and what built his mental strength
1:17:51 - Being the symbol for Black Love | The importance of Self love & Mental Health
1:24:40 - Papoose asks Danza & Kato about their worst Mental Health moments
1:29:24 - Danza asks Papoose to give advice for a Father who’s down bad | Reach out to your kids
1:34:04 - Treating your kids all the same | Papoose’s integrity ft Fred Money, J.R Writer & Katt Williams
1:41:06 - Does Papoose regret any of the actions he took with Eazy & Remy Ma |
1:42:35 - Bud Crawford vs Canello | Boxing discussion | RIP to Wam SpinThaBin
1:56:21 - Papoose’s praises his new supportive relationship with Clarissa | Papoose’s Hat
2:05:33 - Papoose explains his journey to being the head of HipHop at TuneCore
2:13:20 - Advice to artists who are looking to be signed to a record label
2:15:54 - Independent success & Russ comparison
2:20:24 - The Pay to Play narrative in the Industry | Payola
2:23:46 - The Real Truth: Can an individual pay to get to the #1 spot?
2:25:57 - On the scale of life from 1-100 where does Papoose see himself
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Timestamps below. Drop your thoughts respectfully.
Chapters (YouTube timestamps)
Timestamps
0:00 - Intro
1:02 - A Prayer from Woody to open this conversation
4:15 - Woody on Social Media, the divide, and Young Thug’s court battle
7:30 - Gunna being tricked by his lawyer
10:06 The Differences between the Yak Gotti vs Thug interrogations | Woody Pleading the Fifth
15:03 - Young Thug not changing & pleading guilty | Woody’s message to 21 & Baby
17:47 - Woody turning his life around & knowing the truth
21:33 - The end of The Atlanta Era? | Charleston White speaking on Woody’s kids
25:42 - Woody’s new baby on the way
31:12 - Danza speaks to Woody about his positive impact on the world
34:08 - Charleston White’s motives for money | Not worrying about anything | Snitching
40:23 - Roscoe being a rat & trying to clear his name | Would Woody snitch?
44:42 - Ralo & Woody’s issues | Gunna’s rat accusations
47:38 - Reacting to Akademic’s livestream with 6ix9ine
51:11 - Why some outlets go quiet when it’s Thug | Woody being here to open Thug’s eyes
55:40 - Sauce Walka’s trolling & genuine points
58:19 - QC P’s leaked phone call
1:02:59 - What Gunna’s probably thinking: focus and day ones
1:05:11 - Woody’s advice to Thug to get over all this
1:08:03 - Charleston White speaking on the trial | Faith, conscience, & public forgiveness
1:18:24 - The Internet labelling people snitches | Snitches vs Rats
1:20:21 - What got Woody dragged in into all this | Why talking to the police never helps | The Helicopter
1:27:45 - The huge weight on Woody’s shoulders | Stop the violence | Lyrics used in court
1:31:01 - Brian Steel & the “Homicide” video in court | Don’t glamorize it; kids are watching
1:35:57 - Woody reacts to Thug name dropping his name in his music
1:38:56 - Break the cycle; what OGs should be teaching | Lil Baby
1:41:52 - Mundo being a rat | The Devil hands you you’re chance
1:44:44 - Are “The Streets” dead? Definitions vs reality | Boosie & Selective politicking
1:14:15 - Why Thug should separate himself from Roscoe
1:53:14 - Where Kenneth ends and Woody begins | Woody is back!
We also hit: Haney vs Brian Norman, Rolly–Ryan power reality, Canelo vs Crawford (and why fans want Benavídez), AB vs a YouTuber, and what really counts as a legacy fight.
Drop your 140 rankings in the comments: Who should Hitchins fight next—Haney, Teo, Matías, Gary Antoine, or Roach?
0:00 Cold open & TDP intro
1:00 Why this episode’s “different”
3:11 Crown Heights → 2016 Olympics
3:55 Signing with Floyd, then pivot to Eddie Hearn & Keith Connolly
5:24 What he’s chasing now (legacy, respect, belts)
6:01 “I belong with Shakur & Tank”
8:01 The Puerto Rico win & turning point
9:05 “I want Devin Haney” (and Teo)
11:11 Talking his talk—then backing it up
13:15 Loma résumé & the weight-drain question
16:16 IBF 10-lb rehydration rule from his perspective
17:58 “Best vs best” and how lyrics/fandom skew boxing
19:04 Shakur’s influence & IQ
20:04 Would he fight Shakur? (“For life-changing money…”)
27:20 Callout: Lamont Roach at 140
32:31 Tank vs Shakur—who and why (nuanced breakdown)
35:33 Sparring Tank; 1:00 AM work with Shakur
36:59 Next targets at 140 (Matías, Russell) vs star-making fights (Haney, Teo)
40:18 Haney vs Brian Norman thoughts
44:49 Rolly’s power vs Ryan—what really happened
49:59 Canelo vs Crawford; 50:07 Why fans want Benavídez
54:55 Eddie’s “snakes” comment—staying focused
55:40 How much control he has over opponents
56:29 What counts as a legacy fight
1:00:28 On Haney–Ramírez and “playing it safe”
1:01:02 AB vs a YouTuber; health, money, reality
1:03:31 Leaving Mayweather as a business move
1:05:31 Tyson vs Floyd exhibition? Thoughts
1:08:09 Tank vs Jake Paul (what Tank actually does)
1:10:05 Rapid fire: calls he got right (Luben–Ramos, etc.)
1:12:28 Most overrated/underrated at 140; hardest puzzles
1:17:52 Timeline to return (soon)
1:18:12 Danny Garcia at Barclays
1:19:25 The career he wants (Canelo-level staying power)
1:21:01 Scale of life: “I’m at 10/100—long way to go.”
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