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DP/30: Causeway, Lila Neugebauer DP/30: The Oral History Of Hollywood 2022-11-11 | Causeway is an intimate film, now on AppleTV+, about a woman trying to recover from her time in the military and the physical & emotional toll it took on her. It's Lila Neugebauer's first feature film after a remarkable (and ongoing) career in the theater in New York. She took some time to discuss her journey and her new film with David PolandShot via Zoom, November 2022Subscribe to DP/30 for more interviews: http://bit.ly/17Xg4Y1
A Hot Button Halloween DP/30: The Oral History Of Hollywood 2022-10-31 | My (pretty much) daily newsletter, The Hot Button, can be found here - https://davidpoland.substack.com. Today, for Halloween, a very unimportant video message.October 31, 2022
The Hot Button @ Telluride 2 DP/30: The Oral History Of Hollywood 2022-09-02 | Heading to the first movies…
The Hot Button @ Telluride 1 DP/30: The Oral History Of Hollywood 2022-09-02 | I’m at Telluride for the weekend. In order to post to my Substack newsletter (davidpoland.substack.com), the DP/30 account is the easiest conduit. Enjoy or ignore. Who knows? Maybe an interview will turn up!
DP/30: Andrew Rossi, The Andy Warhol Diaries DP/30: The Oral History Of Hollywood 2022-08-21 | You may know his formidable work as a documentarian, showing us the NYT newsroom (Page One) or explaining what's gone wrong with college life (Ivory Tower), but this time Andrew takes on Andy and doesn't just bring the diaries to life, but brings us a level of intimacy that were not in the diaries. He took some time to chat with David Poland.Earlier Rossi DP/30s:Page One w/ David Carr - youtu.be/-4bWRfFWz6APage One (again) - youtu.be/URCDZyeD4SkIvory Tower - youtu.be/2VVarcJVcgIShot via Zoom, July 2022Subscribe to DP/30 for more interviews: http://bit.ly/17Xg4Y1
DP/30: NATO Comm Chief Patrick Corcoran DP/30: The Oral History Of Hollywood 2022-08-05 | The return to movie theaters continues and National Association of Theater Owners' Patrick Corcoran took some time to chat with David Poland about how exhibitors are seeing things at this point.Shot via Zoom, July 2022Subscribe to DP/30 for more interviews: http://bit.ly/17Xg4Y1
DP/30: Reservation Dogs, Devery Jacobs DP/30: The Oral History Of Hollywood 2022-08-01 | An overnight sensation 15 years into her career as an actress, Devery Jacobs not only delivers with her character of Elora on Reservation Dogs (FX/Hulu), but you get the sense this is only the beginning. Devery took a moment while shooting the new series for Disney+, Echo, to chat with David Poland about her life and work. Shot via Zoom, July 2022Subscribe to DP/30 for more interviews: http://bit.ly/17Xg4Y1
DP/30: Cathy Schulman, The First Lady DP/30: The Oral History Of Hollywood 2022-06-28 | She won an Oscar for Crash, has The Woman King coming in the fall, and is producing and writing on the Showtime series, The First Lady. Meet Cathy Schulman, who spends some time with David Poland discussing it all.Shot in Los Angeles, June 2022Subscribe to DP/30 for more interviews: http://bit.ly/17Xg4Y1
DP/30: Sasha Lane, Conversations with Friends DP/30: The Oral History Of Hollywood 2022-06-27 | The remarkable, magnetic Sasha Lane broke out instantly in Andrea Arnold's American Honey. She hasn't stopped working since. Her latest is the limited series, Conversations with Friends. She took a moment to chat with David Poland.Shot in Los Angeles, June 2022Subscribe to DP/30 for more interviews: http://bit.ly/17Xg4Y
DP/30 Emmy 2022: Josh Charles, We Own This City DP/30: The Oral History Of Hollywood 2022-06-23 | Hairspray, Dead Poet's Society, Threesome... Sports Night, SWAT, Four Brothers... Masters of Sex, The Good Wife, Law and Order. You know Josh Charles like a neighbor, across his long and wide-ranging career. This year, he co-starred in the remarkable We Own This City on HBO for showrunners David Simon and George Pelecanos. He took some time to chat with David Poland about all of it. (Poland talks way too much in the last 20 minutes... but such is life.) Shot via Zoom, June 2022 Subscribe to DP/30 for more interviews: http://bit.ly/17Xg4Y1
DP/30 Emmys 2022: We Own This City, Jon Bernthal DP/30: The Oral History Of Hollywood 2022-06-22 | You probably first saw him on The Walking Dead. But Jon Bernthal has shown his versatility in movies from The Wolf of Wall Street to King Richard to Baby Driver to Lee Iacocca in Ford vs Ferrari. This year, he took on the real-life role of Sgt. Wayne Jenkins in We Own This City on HBO. He took some time to chat with David Poland.Shot via Zoom, June 2022Subscribe to DP/30 for more interviews: http://bit.ly/17Xg4Y1
DP/30 Emmys 2022: Imogen Poots, Outer Range (31:13) DP/30: The Oral History Of Hollywood 2022-06-15 | She has had a gloriously eclectic 15 year film and tv career, with titles from 28 Weeks Later to Me and Orson Welles to Fright Night to Popstar: Never Stop Never Stopping to I Know This Much Is True and French Exit. This year, she is co-starring in Outer Range on Amazon opposite Josh Brolin, Lili Taylor, and a cast of rising stars. And she will keep you guessing throughout. Imogen took some time to chat with David Poland about work and movies and life.Shot via Zoom, May 2022Subscribe to DP/30 for more interviews: http://bit.ly/17Xg4Y1
DP/30 Emmys 2022: Ben Schwartz, The Afterparty, Sonic 2 DP/30: The Oral History Of Hollywood 2022-06-06 | He's spreading the funny all over. As Sonic, as the musical episode star of The Afterparty, on Space Force, on Fairfax, soon to be heard in DC Superpets, and as a Ninja Turtle. Often known as the greatest talk show guess in the game, the one the only Ben Schwartz.Earlier DP/30 - Schwartz & Middleditch - youtu.be/Dt2joVPV7dgShot via Zoom, May 2022Subscribe to DP/30 for more interviews: http://bit.ly/17Xg4Y1
DP/30: Dune, Jon Spaihts DP/30: The Oral History Of Hollywood 2022-03-19 | In the last decade, Jon Spaihts has been the credited writer on The Darkest Hour, Prometheus, Passengers, Doctor Strange, The Mummy (2017), and now, Dune. As he prepares for Oscar night and the start of production on Dune 2 in July, he took a moment to chat with David Poland about Dune and his remarkable career. Shot via Zoom, March 2022Subscribe to DP/30 for more interviews: http://bit.ly/17Xg4Y1
DP/30: Sundown, Tim Roth DP/30: The Oral History Of Hollywood 2022-02-13 | He is one of the great character actors of his generation. In his latest collaboration with writer/director Michel Franco, Sundown, he explores a moment in a man's life who is mining a certain, if unclear, peace. He took a moment to chat with David Poland about the film and his career. Shot via Zoom, January 2022Subscribe to DP/30 for more interviews: http://bit.ly/17Xg4Y1
DP/30: Sundown, Michel Franco DP/30: The Oral History Of Hollywood 2022-02-11 | Michel Franco is one of the new era of Mexican filmmakers, pushing hard against expectations and the comfort of the establishment. After Lucia is a brutal masterpiece on bullying. Chronic is the story of a home care nurse who deals with terminal patients. New Order brings the revolution of the poor right into the home of a wealthy family on a wedding day. Now, Sundown... which you should see before you watch this interview. He spoke to David Poland about his latest.Earlier Michel FrancoAfter Lucia: youtu.be/-l9dojQdvywShot via Zoom, January 2022Subscribe to DP/30 for more interviews: http://bit.ly/17Xg4Y1
DP/30: Renate Reinsve, The Worst Person in the World DP/30: The Oral History Of Hollywood 2022-01-30 | She is the sensation in the sensation The Worst Person in the World. She's only 34, but she's lived a pretty full life so far. She took some time to chat with David Poland about the film and her work. Shot via Zoom, January 2022Subscribe to DP/30 for more interviews: http://bit.ly/17Xg4Y1
DP/30: Rebecca Hall, Passing (2022) DP/30: The Oral History Of Hollywood 2022-01-28 | She first broke through in America with Vicky Cristina Barcelona. But even then, she was thinking about directing. 25 movies as an actress later and she finally arrived with her debut as a writer/director. Passing has been haunting audiences thoughts since it landed at the New York Film Festival. And now, Rebecca has been nominated for Best First Time Director of 2021 by the Director’s Guild of America. Rebecca chatted with David Poland about the film and her career.Earlier Rebecca Hall: Vicky Christina Barcelona - youtu.be/A3vAqWe5K1QChristine - youtu.be/c20eVsHUyUoShot via Zoom, January 2022Subscribe to DP/30 for more interviews: http://bit.ly/17Xg4Y1
DP/30: Mike Mills, Cmon Cmon DP/30: The Oral History Of Hollywood 2022-01-24 | Mike Mills' 4th feature film, C'Mon C'mon tells the story of a man, his 9-year-old nephew, his sister and what they all discover together (and apart) through a month of their lives. He took some time to chat with David Poland about the effort.Earlier Mike Mills: Beginners - youtu.be/yKxCPHchSGw20th Century Women - youtu.be/Ys3aLUus2UUShot via Zoom, November 2021Subscribe to DP/30 for more interviews: http://bit.ly/17Xg4Y1
DP/30: Steven Knight, Spencer DP/30: The Oral History Of Hollywood 2022-01-06 | He has been one our most busy and popular screenwriters for 20 years, starting back with Steven Frears' Dirty Pretty Things, then Cronenberg's Eastern Promises, and the TV series Taboo and Peaky Blinder... and now, he is the writer of Pablo Larrain's look at Diana, Princess of Wales... Spencer. He took some time to chat with David Poland about the film and his career.Earlier Knight: Locke - youtu.be/cJh68QFwgw4Shot via Zoom, December 2021Subscribe to DP/30 for more interviews: http://bit.ly/17Xg4Y1
DP/30: Alex Wolff, Pig DP/30: The Oral History Of Hollywood 2021-12-31 | He became famous as part of The Naked Brothers Band on TV, but by the time he hit 18, he showed he was willing to risk his career to make interesting choices by playing Dzhokhar Tsarnaev in Patriots Day. Since, it has been a steady mix of the commercial and cutting edge. Jumanji and Hereditary. Bad Education and Human Capital. And this year, Pig and Old. Alex took a moment to chat with David Poland about the films and the career and other stuff. Previous DP/30: Hereditary - youtu.be/HeFVrI0GO6EShot via Zoom, December 2021Subscribe to DP/30 for more interviews: http://bit.ly/17Xg4Y1
DP/30: Nina Arianda, Being The Ricardos DP/30: The Oral History Of Hollywood 2021-12-29 | You know the face from a wide range of movies and tv shows and you like her every time... time to learn the name... Nina Arianda. She's had a remarkable career at just 37 and she is now blowing up awards noise for her version of Vivian Vance in Being The Ricardos. She took some time to chat about it all with David Poland.Shot via Zoom, December 2021Subscribe to DP/30 for more interviews: http://bit.ly/17Xg4Y1
DP/30: Ruth Negga, Passing DP/30: The Oral History Of Hollywood 2021-12-23 | She exploded into the American film world with her Oscar-nominated turn in Loving, but Ruth Negga is no overnight sensation. On stage and film, she is one of the most respected actresses in England and now, across the globe. Her 2021 film, Passing, deals with two women of color who are able to pass in the white world... for better or worse. It's an intense conversation and talking to Ruth, which David Poland got to do here, is always a fascinating journey into the mind of a serious, passionate person.Audio version of the chat available here... davidpoland.substack.com/p/dp30-audiopod-ruth-negga-passingShot via Zoom, December 2021Subscribe to DP/30 for more interviews: http://bit.ly/17Xg4Y1
DP/30: Flee, Jonas Poher Rasmussen DP/30: The Oral History Of Hollywood 2021-12-13 | Jonas Poher Rasmussen knows Amin, who fled to Afghanistan to live in Denmark. Jonas tells the story in the only way he could, still protecting Amin's identity... with animation. This remarkable film has been one of the most popular films at festivals for over a year during COVID. Jonas took some time to chat with David Poland outside (in the wind) about the film and his work.Shot in Los Angeles, November 2021Subscribe to DP/30 for more interviews: http://bit.ly/17Xg4Y1
DP/30: George Chakiris, Not To Forget, 1961s West Side Story DP/30: The Oral History Of Hollywood 2021-12-12 | He won an Oscar for his portrayal of Bernardo in 1961's West Side Story at the age of 26. He did a wide range of work over the decades since and in 2021, after not being in a film for 25 years, he decided to do a day on an indie called Not To Forget. He took some time to chat with David Poland about his life, his work, and yes, the West Side Story issues of then and now.Shot via Zoom, December 2021Subscribe to DP/30 for more interviews: http://bit.ly/17Xg4Y1
DP/30: The First Wave, Matthew Heineman DP/30: The Oral History Of Hollywood 2021-12-10 | It is the first great American documentary on the COVID crisis. Heineman focuses on the people more than the politics. And it is devastating. He took some time to chat about it with David Poland.Here is DP's review of the film: davidpoland.substack.com/p/thb-32-the-first-waveShot via Zoom, November 2020Subscribe to DP/30 for more interviews: http://bit.ly/17Xg4Y1
DP/30: No Straight Lines, Vivian Kleiman, Alison Bechdel DP/30: The Oral History Of Hollywood 2021-12-09 | Vivian Kleiman's documentary looks at LGBTQ+ comics, their creators, and their social impact from back in the 60s through today. Alison Bechdel's Fun Home is one of the groundbreakers and she joins Vivian in this chat with David Poland.Shot via Zoom, November 2020Subscribe to DP/30 for more interviews: http://bit.ly/17Xg4Y1
DP/30: Procession, Robert Greene DP/30: The Oral History Of Hollywood 2021-12-09 | Documentarian Robert Greene has been working in an unusual doc form since 2011’s Fake It So Real, which was followed by Actress (2014), Kate Plays Christine (2016), and Bisbee '17 (2018), all leading to Procession, which he made for Netflix. Greene took some time to chat with David Poland for DP/30 (the audio version can be found at davidpoland.substack.com/p/dp30-audiopod-procession-director). Shot via Zoom, November 2020Subscribe to DP/30 for more interviews: http://bit.ly/17Xg4Y1
The Hot Button, November 20, 2021: Measuring Content Moving Forward DP/30: The Oral History Of Hollywood 2021-11-30 | Hello DP/30 viewers.I have started a daily newsletter and it would be a great way to support me and DP/30 to subscribe there. It's completely free and you may even enjoy it!Just click here - davidpoland.substack.com - and please subscribe.Thanks,David
DP/30: The Rescue, Jimmy Chin, Elizabeth Chai Vasarhelyi DP/30: The Oral History Of Hollywood 2021-11-18 | The Oscar-winning duo behind Free Solo are back with a very different tale... how to save a group of young men from a cave that has been made inaccessible by water and where they will soon die if they are not rescued. The duo took some time to chat with David Poland about making the film. Shot in Beverly Hills, October 2021Subscribe to DP/30 for more interviews: http://bit.ly/17Xg4Y1
DP/30: A Cop Movie, Alonso Ruizpalacios DP/30: The Oral History Of Hollywood 2021-11-15 | When is a movie a doc and when is it a fiction? Alonso Ruizpalacios crosses back and forth over that line to bring the real story of living the life of a policeperson in Mexico City to the screen. He took some time to chat with David Poland about the process and intent.Shot via Zoom, October 2020Subscribe to DP/30 for more interviews: http://bit.ly/17Xg4Y1
DP/30: Beckett, Ferdinando Cito Filomarino DP/30: The Oral History Of Hollywood 2021-08-19 | Ferdinando Cito Filomarino has spent a decade making movies. But he has become best known for his work with director Luca Guadagnino. Beckett (on Netflix) should be his breakout film as a writer/director. Ferdinando took some time to chat with David Poland about his new film and his work and passions in cinema.Shot on Zoom, August 2021Subscribe to DP/30 for more interviews: http://bit.ly/17Xg4Y1
DP/30: Jena Malone, Lorelei DP/30: The Oral History Of Hollywood 2021-08-13 | She has been a famous actress since Bastard Out Of Carolina in 1996, when she was just 12. With a few years off for good behavior, she has worked consistently and at a high level ever since. Her latest, Lorelei, is another turn for her work, as her real-life parenting and a remarkable, informed on-screen performance meet. She took some time to chat with David Poland about her work on this film, her career, and her still unquenchable passions.Shot by Zoom, August 2021Subscribe to DP/30 for more interviews: http://bit.ly/17Xg4Y1
DP/30: PEN 15, co-creator/director Sam Zvibleman DP/30: The Oral History Of Hollywood 2021-06-18 | You know him from... well... PEN15. But what a way to break out. Mr. Z is thoughtful, honest, and funny in this chat with David Poland about the series, the industry, and ambition in this crazy business called "show."Shot in Los Angeles, May 2019Subscribe to DP/30 for more interviews: http://bit.ly/17Xg4Y1
DP/30: NATOs John Fithian on The Return To Movie Theaters After COVID DP/30: The Oral History Of Hollywood 2021-05-21 | John Fithian is president and CEO of the National Association of Theater Owners. He sat down with David Poland on May 17, 2021 to discuss the year of movie theaters shut down by COVID and more importantly, the steps to return the exhibition business back to full strength, both post-COVID and in a world with endless streaming. This is the first DP/30 interview conducted live in over 14 months.Shot in person, in Los Angeles, May 2021Subscribe to DP/30 for more interviews: http://bit.ly/17Xg4Y1
DP/30 Sneak: NATO Pres John Fithian on What Theaters Need To Reopen (May 2021) DP/30: The Oral History Of Hollywood 2021-05-18 | Shot, LIVE in Los Angeles, May 18, 2021Subscribe to DP/30 for more interviews: http://bit.ly/17Xg4Y1
DP/30: Rutherford Falls, Sierra Teller Ornelas DP/30: The Oral History Of Hollywood 2021-05-03 | You've likely laughed at her jokes on Brooklyn Nine-Nine or Superstore, but Sierra Teller Ornelas is the showrunner of the new Peacock comedy, Rutherford Falls (starring Ed Helms). Her origins are not what you might expect from a sitcom writer. But it's been a journey of passion and clear focus from the start. She took some time to chat with David Poland.Shot via Zoom, April 2021Subscribe to DP/30 for more interviews: http://bit.ly/17Xg4Y1
DP/30: The Letter Room, Elvira Lind, Sofia Sondervan DP/30: The Oral History Of Hollywood 2021-05-01 | This Oscar-nominated drama (with some comedy), Elvira Linda takes you into the intimate life of a prison guard who didn't expect to get into the intimate life of the inmates. Ms. Lind and her producer, Sofia Sondervanm chatted with David Poland about the film. Shot via Zoom, April 2021Subscribe to DP/30 for more interviews: http://bit.ly/17Xg4Y1
DP/30: Mortal Kombat, Chin Han DP/30: The Oral History Of Hollywood 2021-04-27 | He has been named as one of Asia's 25 greatest actors of all-time and Variety's Asian Star of the Year in 2013. In America, he is best known for The Dark Knight, Contagion, Skyscraper, and now, 2021's Mortal Kombat. He took some time to chat with David Poland about Mortal Kombat and his career in front of and behind the camera.Shot via Zoom, April 2021Subscribe to DP/30 for more interviews: http://bit.ly/17Xg4Y1
DP/30: Ashley Thomas, THEM DP/30: The Oral History Of Hollywood 2021-04-22 | You may remember him from Black Mirror or 24: Legacy or Salvation, but you are likely to not be able to forget him after seeing him in the Amazon Limited Series, Them. He chatted with David Poland from London.Shot via Zoom, April 2021Subscribe to DP/30 for more interviews: http://bit.ly/17Xg4Y1
DP/30: Mulan Special Effects Team, Sean Faden, Anders Langlands, Seth Maury DP/30: The Oral History Of Hollywood 2021-04-14 | Sean Faden (Visual Effects Supervisor)Anders Langlands (Weta VFX Supervisor)Seth Maury (Imageworks VFX Supervisor)
DP/30: Steve Basilone, Long Weekend DP/30: The Oral History Of Hollywood 2021-04-07 | He's had a successful career as a comedy writer, including Happy Endings, Community, and The Goldbergs. And now, he is a film director, with his first film, Long Weekend, in theaters in the era of COVID. He spoke to David Poland about his journey and his film.Shot via Zoom, March 2021Subscribe to DP/30 for more interviews: http://bit.ly/17Xg4Y1
DP/30: True/False Film Festival, David Wilson DP/30: The Oral History Of Hollywood 2021-03-29 | David Wilson co-founded the True/False doc festival in Columbia, Mo with Paul Sturtz in 2004 and in the 16 years since, it has become not only one of the most respected festivals, but one of the annual festivals where filmmakers have a great time presenting their films and seeing films over a long weekend in the college town. The 2020 festival wrapped just as COVID took over and for this year's festival, David and the team have come up with an event that will be one experience for people at home and something else for in-person outdoor audiences. Wilson discussed the plans and the state of the industry with David Poland. Shot via Zoom, March 2021Subscribe to DP/30 for more interviews: http://bit.ly/17Xg4Y1
DP/30: Cherry, Ciara Bravo DP/30: The Oral History Of Hollywood 2021-03-05 | You may know her from Wayne or from Nickelodeon or from her many credits since the age of 11. But starting in 2021, she will be known as "Ciara Bravo from Cherry," until she pushes through into another career-changing role. Ciara took some time to chat with David Poland about her new film and her career.Shot via Zoom, January 2021Subscribe to DP/30 for more interviews: http://bit.ly/17Xg4Y1
DP/30: Harry Gregson Williams, Mulan DP/30: The Oral History Of Hollywood 2021-03-03 | One of the top film composers for over 25 years, Harry Gregson Williams' music is familiar to you from the films of Ridley Scott, Tony Scott, Ben Affleck, Antoine Fuqua and Shrek, amongst many more. He took some time to talk to David Poland about his score for Mulan, his second collaboration with Niki Caro. Shot via Zoom, February 2021Subscribe to DP/30 for more interviews: http://bit.ly/17Xg4Y1
DP/30: Losing Alice - Ayelet Zurer, Sigal Avin DP/30: The Oral History Of Hollywood 2021-02-26 | One is the Israeli movie star who has been the mother of both Superman and Ben-Hur, Kingpin's wife, and a central character in the growing relationship between Israeli and American television. The other is a director/writer who has been making hits for Israeli TV for 2 decades. Together, they made Losing Alice, the story of a female director who becomes obsessed with a project that overpowers her instinct of preservation as a wife and mother. The duo chatted with David Poland about the 8-part series for AppleTV+ in the US.Shot via Zoom, February 2021Subscribe to DP/30 for more interviews: http://bit.ly/17Xg4Y1
DP/30: Diane Warren 2020 - The Life Ahead, The One & Only Ivan DP/30: The Oral History Of Hollywood 2021-02-24 | She is a living songwriting legend. 11 Oscar nominations. Still waiting on her first win. But wow...what an epic catalog. She took a half-an-hour to chat with David Poland from her studio in Hollywood.Earlier Diane Warren, 2018 - youtu.be/iBhNh2K8hPIShot via Zoom, February 2021Subscribe to DP/30 for more interviews: http://bit.ly/17Xg4Y1
DP/30: The Forty-Year-Old-Version, Peter Kim DP/30: The Oral History Of Hollywood 2021-02-23 | He is the best (business) friend to Radha Blank in the Netflix hit The Forty-Year-Old Version. But this is only the latest in a 25+ year career in the industry. He's loose, he's funny, he's a pleasure... David Poland tries to keep up with him.Shot via Zoom, January 2021Subscribe to DP/30 for more interviews: http://bit.ly/17Xg4Y1
DP/30: Colman Domingo, Ma Raineys Black Bottom, Euphoria DP/30: The Oral History Of Hollywood 2021-02-22 | He has made a life on stage, screen, and television... in front and behind the scenes. And this year, he has had success after success. Colman Domingo took some time to chat with David Poland about his work and his life.
DP/30: Sacha Baron Cohen, Borat Subsequent Moviefilm, The Trial of the Chicago 7 DP/30: The Oral History Of Hollywood 2021-02-13 | Sacha Baron Cohen has spent 2 decades showing only his characters to the public. But this year, with the double dip of Borat Subsequent Moviefilm and The Trial of the Chicago 7, he's decided to allow us behind the characters to meet the man. He took some time to chat with David Poland about his films and his journey. Shot via Zoom, January 2021Subscribe to DP/30 for more interviews: http://bit.ly/17Xg4Y1
