Transliminal**Religion, Myth, Science, Truth** | an evening with Dr. Jordan B. Peterson
This video was filmed prior to JBP's 2016 statements on gender, and neither condones, nor addresses, his post-2016 work.
*** Table of Contents:
0:00 INTRO: PETERSON'S JOURNEY
9:45 RELIGION: CROWD-CONTROL, NAIVE SCIENCE, OR NEITHER? 10:08 "They're straw man arguments" 11:45 Multiple motivational systems, different levels of thinking 13:32 Fundamental presuppositions 14:13 Dawkins vs. Christianity: like a "smart 13 year old boy"
14:36 INTERMISSION: PETERSON ADDRESSES HIS DOG
14:44 SCIENTISTS MISREADING RELIGION 15:52 Different systems of thought, different purposes 16:00 More than one basic assumption is possible
17:13 ENTER: DOMINANCE HIERARCHIES 17:19 What's real is what's persistent across time 17:33 Dominance hierarchies and lobsters 17:58 We're evolutionarily adapted to hierarchies
18:14 HIERARCHIES, RELIGIOUS THINKING, AND SUBJECTIVITY 18:42 "Being" as not reducible to material reality 19:12 The road to nihilism and authoritarianism
19:57 DETERMINING THE TRUTH OF A THEORY 20:07 Newton or Darwin? Choose one. You can't have both. 20:20 Nitzche's "Truth serves life" is a Darwinian idea 20:38 No idea if our knoweldge will help us survive over deep time 20:50 Answer to: "But look what we've built with it" 21:20 Crossing Ebola and Smallpox: some science is clearly insane 22:30 Check your assumptions about reality 23:45 Darwinism: truth is what enables survival within chaos, period. 25:03 Dawkins is a Newtonian not a Darwinian 26:09 Reductionism leaves things out. This has consequences. 27:27 The pragmatic problem: truth for what?
28:09 DEEP DARWINISM & RELIGION 28:15 Religion as evolved knowledge about action 29:40 American Pragmatist philosophers: the true Darwinians 30:17 Godel, the stock market and reality
31:02 TRUTH AS ACTION 31:44 Truth from the bottom up: lobsters, wolves, humans 34:27 Ethics: evolved patterns in dominance hierarchies 39:23 Dogs, chimps and humans: hierarchy navigators 44:45 From dominance hierarchies to archetypes: ancient Egypt 52:36 The soul 55:50 Jung on Christianity, truth and speech 59:07 Truth versus the lie
1:00:52 THE INTELLECT 1:00:52 The totalitarian intellect 1:02:43 Have you made thinking your God? 1:03:38 Attention trumps thinking
1:04:11 EVOLUTIONARY ROOTS OF WESTERN RELIGION 1:04:33 Christ as a metahero 1:04:43 The deep roots of myth 1:07:00 Chaos monsters 1:08:55 Myth as behavioural truth 1:09:37 "Darwin trumps Newton" 1:10:02 "Dawkins is a rationalist...not a darwinian" 1:10:07 Darwinian time, Darwinian truth 1:13:57 Mesopotamian myth as successful behaviour blueprint
1:17:36 FROM NATURE TO HERO MYTHOLOGY 1:19:33 Religious stories model being as a field for action 1:21:13 Our religious task 1:21:47 Religion as hero mythology 1:22:30 "You...don't know that you know the story."
1:23:58 PIAGET AND PRE-RATIONAL MORALITY 1:25:16 We learn to act before we learn the rules 1:26:18 Moses the Judge: observer of emergent moral patterns 1:27:54 "Opiate of the masses" as naive industrial era thinking
1:28:43 METAPHORICAL THOUGHT 1:29:11 Hyperactive agency detection module: it goes deeper 1:31:00 The brain as archetype detection organ 1:32:08 Women are nature 1:33:48 Metaphor, myth and science
1:36:00 SCIENCE AND MORAL TRUTH 1:37:52 Are all scientists devoted to the truth? 1:39:44 How do we judge if science is ethical? 1:42:57 Evil as archetypically real 1:44:06 The reality of good and evil 1:45:09 Science and mythology: which is embedded in which?
1:48:17 EVOLUTIONARY PSYCHOLOGY AND DEEP TIME
1:49:13 RELIGIOUS METAPHYSICS: OPTIONAL? 1:49:20 Is God an old man with a beard in the sky? 1:51:12 Hurricane Katrina, corruption and poverty 1:52:12 The significance of the bible 1:53:43 The genius of the sacrifice
1:55:50 INTERLUDE: TRIANGULATING MEANING
1:58:02 END OF RELIGION? 1:58:02 On new atheists' claims of a secular rational future 1:58:29 On new age spirituality 1:58:49 New atheist rationalist optimism so absurd it must be motivated
1:59:18 REDUCING RELIGION VS. EXPANDING EVOLUTION 1:59:40 "[The Jungian alternative]...is terrifying [for people]" 1:59:57 "[Jung's work]...puts enlightenment thinkers to shame" 2:00:17 "Which ideas have you? ... We're like playthings of the gods"
2:01:09 JUNG: STUDYING INFORMATION, NOT MATTER 2:02:23 "If you study religion properly, it'll demolish your personality"
2:08:16 METAPHOR VS REALITY: NOT OBVIOUS 2:10:11 Ancients: phenomenologists, not scientists 2:12:24 Religion as spatial
2:13:24 HUMANS: EFFICIENT COMPLEXITY MANAGERS 2:13:48 Reality in terms of resolution 2:15:52 There's lots worse than death 2:16:46 On Becker's "The Denial of Death": smart but mistaken 2:19:40 Death's not the problem, it's complexity
2:21:06 THE MULTICULTURAL DIMENSION
2:27:35 FROM THEORY TO ACTION 2:28:40 Fixing what bugs you 2:29:30 Overcoming the lie 2:31:54 Peterson's experience with truth 2:34:45 The most powerful thing we can do
Dr Jordan B Peterson | *full-length* 2014 interviewTransliminal2015-11-10 | **Religion, Myth, Science, Truth** | an evening with Dr. Jordan B. Peterson
This video was filmed prior to JBP's 2016 statements on gender, and neither condones, nor addresses, his post-2016 work.
*** Table of Contents:
0:00 INTRO: PETERSON'S JOURNEY
9:45 RELIGION: CROWD-CONTROL, NAIVE SCIENCE, OR NEITHER? 10:08 "They're straw man arguments" 11:45 Multiple motivational systems, different levels of thinking 13:32 Fundamental presuppositions 14:13 Dawkins vs. Christianity: like a "smart 13 year old boy"
14:36 INTERMISSION: PETERSON ADDRESSES HIS DOG
14:44 SCIENTISTS MISREADING RELIGION 15:52 Different systems of thought, different purposes 16:00 More than one basic assumption is possible
17:13 ENTER: DOMINANCE HIERARCHIES 17:19 What's real is what's persistent across time 17:33 Dominance hierarchies and lobsters 17:58 We're evolutionarily adapted to hierarchies
18:14 HIERARCHIES, RELIGIOUS THINKING, AND SUBJECTIVITY 18:42 "Being" as not reducible to material reality 19:12 The road to nihilism and authoritarianism
19:57 DETERMINING THE TRUTH OF A THEORY 20:07 Newton or Darwin? Choose one. You can't have both. 20:20 Nitzche's "Truth serves life" is a Darwinian idea 20:38 No idea if our knoweldge will help us survive over deep time 20:50 Answer to: "But look what we've built with it" 21:20 Crossing Ebola and Smallpox: some science is clearly insane 22:30 Check your assumptions about reality 23:45 Darwinism: truth is what enables survival within chaos, period. 25:03 Dawkins is a Newtonian not a Darwinian 26:09 Reductionism leaves things out. This has consequences. 27:27 The pragmatic problem: truth for what?
28:09 DEEP DARWINISM & RELIGION 28:15 Religion as evolved knowledge about action 29:40 American Pragmatist philosophers: the true Darwinians 30:17 Godel, the stock market and reality
31:02 TRUTH AS ACTION 31:44 Truth from the bottom up: lobsters, wolves, humans 34:27 Ethics: evolved patterns in dominance hierarchies 39:23 Dogs, chimps and humans: hierarchy navigators 44:45 From dominance hierarchies to archetypes: ancient Egypt 52:36 The soul 55:50 Jung on Christianity, truth and speech 59:07 Truth versus the lie
1:00:52 THE INTELLECT 1:00:52 The totalitarian intellect 1:02:43 Have you made thinking your God? 1:03:38 Attention trumps thinking
1:04:11 EVOLUTIONARY ROOTS OF WESTERN RELIGION 1:04:33 Christ as a metahero 1:04:43 The deep roots of myth 1:07:00 Chaos monsters 1:08:55 Myth as behavioural truth 1:09:37 "Darwin trumps Newton" 1:10:02 "Dawkins is a rationalist...not a darwinian" 1:10:07 Darwinian time, Darwinian truth 1:13:57 Mesopotamian myth as successful behaviour blueprint
1:17:36 FROM NATURE TO HERO MYTHOLOGY 1:19:33 Religious stories model being as a field for action 1:21:13 Our religious task 1:21:47 Religion as hero mythology 1:22:30 "You...don't know that you know the story."
1:23:58 PIAGET AND PRE-RATIONAL MORALITY 1:25:16 We learn to act before we learn the rules 1:26:18 Moses the Judge: observer of emergent moral patterns 1:27:54 "Opiate of the masses" as naive industrial era thinking
1:28:43 METAPHORICAL THOUGHT 1:29:11 Hyperactive agency detection module: it goes deeper 1:31:00 The brain as archetype detection organ 1:32:08 Women are nature 1:33:48 Metaphor, myth and science
1:36:00 SCIENCE AND MORAL TRUTH 1:37:52 Are all scientists devoted to the truth? 1:39:44 How do we judge if science is ethical? 1:42:57 Evil as archetypically real 1:44:06 The reality of good and evil 1:45:09 Science and mythology: which is embedded in which?
1:48:17 EVOLUTIONARY PSYCHOLOGY AND DEEP TIME
1:49:13 RELIGIOUS METAPHYSICS: OPTIONAL? 1:49:20 Is God an old man with a beard in the sky? 1:51:12 Hurricane Katrina, corruption and poverty 1:52:12 The significance of the bible 1:53:43 The genius of the sacrifice
1:55:50 INTERLUDE: TRIANGULATING MEANING
1:58:02 END OF RELIGION? 1:58:02 On new atheists' claims of a secular rational future 1:58:29 On new age spirituality 1:58:49 New atheist rationalist optimism so absurd it must be motivated
1:59:18 REDUCING RELIGION VS. EXPANDING EVOLUTION 1:59:40 "[The Jungian alternative]...is terrifying [for people]" 1:59:57 "[Jung's work]...puts enlightenment thinkers to shame" 2:00:17 "Which ideas have you? ... We're like playthings of the gods"
2:01:09 JUNG: STUDYING INFORMATION, NOT MATTER 2:02:23 "If you study religion properly, it'll demolish your personality"
2:08:16 METAPHOR VS REALITY: NOT OBVIOUS 2:10:11 Ancients: phenomenologists, not scientists 2:12:24 Religion as spatial
2:13:24 HUMANS: EFFICIENT COMPLEXITY MANAGERS 2:13:48 Reality in terms of resolution 2:15:52 There's lots worse than death 2:16:46 On Becker's "The Denial of Death": smart but mistaken 2:19:40 Death's not the problem, it's complexity
2:21:06 THE MULTICULTURAL DIMENSION
2:27:35 FROM THEORY TO ACTION 2:28:40 Fixing what bugs you 2:29:30 Overcoming the lie 2:31:54 Peterson's experience with truth 2:34:45 The most powerful thing we can doThe Settlements | Gershom Gorenberg | Part IITransliminal2019-12-25 | Three ways to support!
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Here I interview popular philosophy professor Dr Steven Taubeneck, who specializes in modern European thought. Dr Taubeneck studied directly under RIchard Rorty, and has given highly acclaimed lectures in both in European Studies and philosophy departments across North America.
In Part I of this interview, we discussed the origins of existentialism as a movement, beginning with Hegel, and continuing to the likes of Kierkegaard and Dostoyevsky. (See Part I: youtu.be/g0flzyym9-Y)
Here in Part II, we move on to a discussion of Heidegger, the emergence of post-modernism, the continental-analytic split in modern philosophy, and how each of these is related.
At the end of the interview, I ask Taubeneck to recommend a small handful of readings for those interested in pursuing these ideas further. He suggests the following three pieces:
Trotsky and The Wild Orchids -- Richard Rorty: http://cdclv.unlv.edu/pragmatism/rorty_orchids.html
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Here I interview popular philosophy professor Dr Steven Taubeneck, who specializes in modern European thought. Dr Taubeneck studied directly under RIchard Rorty, and has given highly acclaimed lectures in both in European Studies and philosophy departments across North America.
Here we talk about where existentialism as a movement came from, beginning with Hegel, and continuing to the likes of Kierkegaard and Dostoyevsky. In Part II we move on to Heidegger, the continental-analytic split, post-modernism, and more.
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---On 1948 | Ilan Pappe | Part II | 2018Transliminal2018-12-09 | What happened to the Palestinians when Israel declared its independence in 1948?
Was it ethnic cleansing? Chaos? Legitimate Jewish self-defense?
Prof. Ilan Pappe is perhaps the most contentious Israeli historian of this question.
Decidedly left-wing in his outlook, Pappe is both an historian, and a social activist. He's perhaps most famous for his book "The Ethnic Cleansing of Palestine," in which he lays out a case that the war for the creation of Israel in 1948 is best understood as an ethnic cleansing of the native Palestinian population by primarily European Jews.
Unsurprisingly, Pappe's scholarship is widely derided in Israel. Yet his work is often celebrated by many pro-Palestinian activists in the Middle East and abroad.
Pappe currently teaches history at the University of Exeter, in the UK.
This is part two of my two part interview with Pappe last summer, in Haifa.
For the contrasting academic perspective, please see my interviews with Prof Benny Morris, of Ben-Gurion University, here: goo.gl/sC5BTeOn 1948 | Ilan Pappe | Part I | 2018 interviewTransliminal2018-09-01 | Please support this channel: patreon.com/transliminal
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What happened to the Palestinians when Israel declared its independence in 1948?
Was it ethnic cleansing? Chaos? Legitimate Jewish self-defense?
Prof. Ilan Pappe is perhaps the most contentious Israeli historian of this question.
Decidedly left-wing in his outlook, Pappe is both an historian, and a social activist. He's perhaps most famous for his book "The Ethnic Cleansing of Palestine," in which he lays out a case that the war for the creation of Israel in 1948 is best understood as an ethnic cleansing of the native Palestinian population by primarily European Jews.
Unsurprisingly, Pappe's scholarship is widely derided in Israel. Yet his work is often celebrated by many pro-Palestinian activists in the Middle East and abroad.
Pappe currently teaches history at the University of Exeter, in the UK.
This is part one of my two part interview with Pappe last summer, in Haifa.
For the contrasting academic perspective, please see my interviews with Prof Benny Morris, of Ben-Gurion University, here: goo.gl/sC5BTe
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So do I!
Please support this project on Patreon, and help me convert all this material (including dozens of hours of additional raw interviews) into an informative, compelling, documentary film.
Please contact me for permission before using this material on your own channels. Thank you for your understanding.On 1948 | Benny Morris | Part II | 2018 interviewTransliminal2018-08-01 | What happened to the Palestinians when Israel declared its independence in 1948?
Was it ethnic cleansing? Chaos? Legitimate Jewish self-defense?
Prof. Benny Morris is arguably the preeminent historian of this question.
His answers tend to upset everyone equally, which is an accomplishment when it comes to Israel & Palestine. In short, Morris' scholarship is contentious, but hugely important.
This is part two of my two part interview with Morris last summer, at his home in southern Israel.
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Transliminal Interviews - Episode 03
Here I interview renowned social psychologist Dr Ara Norenzayan, Co-Director of UBC's Centre for Human Evolution, Cognition and Culture (www.hecc.ubc.ca) and a pioneer in the psychological study of religion.
Norenzayan's also the author of the highly acclaimed "Big Gods: How Religion Transformed Cooperation and Conflict," available here: goo.gl/KyyC4T
Norenzayan's prolific work features prominently in our online MOOC, "The Science of Religion," which is available totally for free via EdX: edx.org/course/the-science-of-religion
Check it out!
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What happened to the Palestinians when Israel declared its independence in 1948?
Was it ethnic cleansing? Chaos? Legitimate Jewish self-defense?
Prof. Benny Morris is arguably the preeminent historian of this question.
His answers tend to upset everyone equally, which is an accomplishment when it comes to Israel & Palestine. In short, Morris' scholarship is contentious, but hugely important.
This is part one of my two part interview with Morris last summer, at his home in southern Israel.
***
Like this raw interview content? Want to see the pithy, captivating documentary version?
So do I!
Please support this project on Patreon, and help me convert all this material (including dozens of hours of additional raw interviews) into an informative, compelling, documentary film.
Learn more here: https://www.patreon.com/zionaninvesti...
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***Religion & Moral Psychology | Dr Azim Shariff | Jan 2018Transliminal2018-01-23 | Like the material? We're fan funded! Please support us on Patreon: patreon.com/transliminal
In this inaugural episode of the new 'Transliminal Interviews' series, I talk with psychology professor Azim Shariff about the origins of religion, morality, and how and why we make the moral judgments that we do.
Dr Shariff is a former student of Dr Jordan B Peterson, as well as a brilliant (and enviably well-published) young thinker in his own right.
To see some more, check out this sample lecture from the MOOC we made together. It's actually pretty funny, given the weightiness of the material (moral reasoning): vimeo.com/200656826/9cdbb78d26
Roemer paper (We made a mistake during the podcast: it’s John Roemer, not Paul Roemer, and he’s the second author. Woojin Lee is the first): http://citeseerx.ist.psu.edu/viewdoc/download?doi=10.1.1.414.9473&rep=rep1&type=pdf
Rough transcript of the captions to this interview available here: goo.gl/ZK6JAH (Courtesy of Louise Parberry)
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---Cultural Evolution & the Origin of Faith | Dr Joseph HenrichTransliminal2017-01-20 | Dr Joseph Henrich explains how genes and culture have cumulatively evolved in tandem to create the human capacity for faith, and thus for biologically unprecedented development.
Dr Edward Slingerland, co-director of UBC's Centre for Human Evolution, Cognition and Culture (www.hecc.ubc.ca), introduces what it means to view reilgion from a scientific perspective.
Religious ritual video provided courtesy of Vincent Moon (www.vincentmoon.com).
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Dr Jonathan Lanman describes surprising factors that predict whether someone will grow up to believe in god, and what makes people most likely to sacrifice themselves for their religion.
CC BY-NC-SAThe New Science of Religion (intro)Transliminal2015-12-21 | New scientific advances are shedding fresh light on the phenomenon of religion, where it comes from, and what's made it so compelling throughout history.
Whether you're a devout believer, avowed atheist, or somewhere inbetween, the answers may surprise you.
Follow this video and podcast series, and have your mind bent in intriguing new ways.